14:32:11 why are you still whining about your ccs 14:33:01 it's not a winning strategy for getting it moved to funding 14:47:40 How a "winning strategy" could look then? I did not look at all this long-running stuff deeply, but from what I could read here "from the outside" the whole affair sounds a bit confusing. I wonder why no resolution wanted to present itself, even after weeks. 14:49:00 First rough guess of mine would be that boths sides, pro merge and against merge, have some valid points, and some compromise would be helpful. 14:51:50 A bit of clarity regarding some stuff imo 14:51:53 Anonero is loved 14:52:21 but there are some holes to patch 14:54:07 like you said, offering a compromise might be a better approach? or explaining the situation to others/asking for support. why aren't all the anonero lovers upvoting the proposal? 14:54:13 and they won’t talk about it, explain, cover etc 14:54:15 just “merge” 14:54:45 geonic: They’re not even patching vulns 14:54:50 yeah it's a pretty ugly pressure tactic. I'd downvote just based on r4v3r23's behavior in this channel 14:55:29 https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/671 14:55:36 it worked for ofrn but he's a arguably better whiner 14:55:54 lol 14:55:55 I asked about some points 14:59:04 thanks, downvoted 14:59:15 lolol 15:00:20 upvoting your own proposal is a choice lol 16:06:28 was looking through completed CCS 16:06:28 is there a monero movie??? 16:06:29 where can i watch it 16:13:02 it’s on Amazon 16:13:26 search for Límite 16:14:56 I wouldn’t call it a monero movie but there’s a monero element in it 16:16:56 doesn't that have a permissively licensed? 16:17:28 Not complaining about price or anything like that, I'll watch it but I don't understand 16:17:37 Found it 16:18:05 https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/PftdIVZnsOBDxreuqZsjwuSb.png (b58d258a-6640-4657-a3d2-46a504cbc70a679858299220917595.png) 16:23:15 The movie wasnt funded, only helping it win an oscar was > <@slowbeardigger:matrix.org> doesn't that have a permissively licensed? 16:23:44 OooooOOO 16:30:07 Does anyone have a screenshot of the part where Monero is shown 16:30:09 Maybe I should just google it 16:30:40 @jpk68:matrix.org: Shown? 16:30:55 Theres a metal coin with an M on it 16:31:10 Sounds totally worth it 16:31:21 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: That's it? 16:31:31 Ya 16:31:35 lol, ok 16:38:32 https://x.com/LIMITEmovie/status/1662592776087953408 16:42:01 https://decrypt.co/229739/monero-backed-film-limite-injustice-mexican-american-border 16:44:21 isIs it only mentioned or 16:44:29 like there’s something going on and Monero is the thing 16:44:30 idk 16:44:56 no, monero is not the thing :) it’s a movie about people not about a coin 16:45:18 ah 16:45:23 okay 16:45:24 ty 16:45:35 i had some hopes 16:46:02 in my mind at least it was used, explained 16:46:21 like Mr. Robot goes with some stable coin shit 16:46:22 like in an infomercial? 16:46:30 No 16:46:44 Like, CCS helped at some point, a little bit more of monero something 16:47:02 just me overthinking don’t mind me 16:47:10 Ill watch it tonight 16:47:31 cool, 16:47:37 Enjoy 17:27:30 I wasn't around for yesterday meeting but +1 for anonero. 17:27:30 if things were patched and other opinions/issues taken on board and worked on then what is the problem? 17:27:30 it would be a great addition for the Monero eco - isn't this what we all want 17:48:09 generally speaking, kotlin devs with zero pr's to monero-core aren't given free range over a community wallet project, especially kotlin devs who have proven they are content with 4~ year old dependencies (for the entire lifespan? of anonero, build server also none existent. not surprising a new ui is listed as the first milestone , and monero-lws 17:48:09 as the last one , heres full time employment as one of the top earners on the CCS, lol 17:49:47 yep 17:53:09 as for the bounty policy changes for jpk68, there is support for his proposal to be subsidised by something - then why not help from the general fund? which historically helps fund monero-core contributors and other essential proposals by about a third 17:53:49 because its been in funding for like 4 days 17:54:16 gf will likely donate on their own time if it stays in need of funding for a while 17:54:30 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: exaggerations 17:54:35 true 17:55:36 i dont think it would be fair to other core contributors if one person is allowed to request GF funding (which isnt inline with the rules / process), while everyone else typically campaigns for funding from community contributors 17:56:49 1. There is no guarantee that your project will get past the Ideas stage, and if it does, there is no guarantee that it will be funded. 17:56:49 2. Your work on the project can begin before the proposal is fully funded, and milestones may (at times) be paid out before the proposal is fully funded. 17:56:54 that should be 1 and 6 17:57:17 I think the fact that bounty funding, which could be put to good use, is just sitting there and doing nothing. I think that's stupid 17:57:20 That's just my opinion. 17:57:22 2 is You have to drum up support for your proposal during the first two stages. Do not expect others (especially the Core Team or other trusted members of the community) to do it for you. Others may share and support if they are excited about your project, but ultimately it is nobody's responsibility but your own. 17:57:31 i was fortunate enough to obtain full funding after over 3 months of being in the funding required stage, combined with a contribution from the general fund 17:57:57 YMMV 17:58:11 syn waited 2 months to get hinto repurpose 17:58:25 v1doc waited like 6 months to be jetfunded by his own overfunding 17:59:17 and yes, GF donates to core proposals when the funding is slow, or its a holiday, or just feeling like sprinkling some love on the proposals 18:00:05 but its only been in funding for a couple weeks, while redshade and syn have been in funding for months 18:00:30 the CCS is a bank for some proposers - probably more than 1k 'doing nothing' - i wouldnt let it get to you 18:00:52 ah I see. > generally speaking, kotlin devs with zero pr's to monero-core aren't given free range over a community wallet project, especially kotlin devs who have proven they are content with 4~ year old dependencies (for the entire lifespan? of anonero, build server also none existent. not surprising a new ui is listed as the first milestone , and monero-lws 18:00:52 if that is the case regarding the dev statement, then fair enough - can't really argue if dependences are 4yrs old. 18:00:52 it would be nice not to see anonero become forgotten and hopefully someone with a Monero contribution history would be kind enough and willing to help anonero move forward. 18:00:52 [... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/qMiCi6gLTkdJeGV6 ] 18:01:15 nobody knows 18:01:37 anonym was the handle, but thats probably just a burner 18:02:13 the deps where / are updated now, after i reported the issue - and was told that its no problem , people "building from source" would get the updated deps - which is either a lie or proof that you're not qualified to be a project lead or are not being advised by compotent people 18:02:16 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: redsh4des Monero redesign is very nice. 18:02:47 the current redshade proposal is to bring the same look/feel to ccs 18:03:32 speaking of, @plowsof, when merges for redshade and syn updates? 18:03:39 helps make them more attractive 18:03:41 yeah I did see his screenshots of the CCS revamp. 🔥 18:03:47 plowsof: Alright, so there's funding to feed several devs for years and we're deciding to not take advantage of that. Doesn't make it any better 18:04:32 plowsof is refering to how there are thousands of xmr in the ccs wallet simply bcuz devs didnt claim completed milestones 18:04:50 Yes, I know that. My point still stands 18:04:53 those funds arent available for repurpose, they are completed works that have not been collected 18:04:54 @jpk68:matrix.org: why do I have an impression of deja vu 18:05:02 this was already said in the meeting yesterday 18:05:28 I think we're at loggerheads with this, and it's not going anywhere. I get that, and I'll shut up now 18:05:35 is this an informal meeting? 18:05:59 the merges will come when we least expect it mostly sooner rather than later 18:06:32 have you by any chance had time to look into the stagex issues syntheticbird? 18:06:40 @jpk68:matrix.org: i was about to advice you to do that 18:06:56 no offense, its just that I've seen this exact scene at least 5 times since I joined 18:07:01 never lead to anything 18:07:19 so can i have my overfunding or not 18:07:27 its more of a "don't lose your time and energy" message than "im angry at you for being passionate about it" 18:07:46 im infuriated that my overfunding is used for nothing and was stolen in the ccs hack 18:07:53 plowsof no 18:07:55 plowsof: no 18:07:55 I will for next cuprate meeting 18:07:56 haha 18:07:59 💢 18:08:17 no to stagex, yes to overfunding plowsof deserves it 18:09:18 heres the conspiracy: we dont fix the website to show update totals as soon as the amount is detected, because we want to grow the jetfund 18:09:57 overfunding never hurt anybody. those extra piconeros we raised at 100$ spread much further now than they would have back then 18:10:12 unless forgotten it should be updating every 2 mins~ (a timeout of x seconds was added to gitlab calls) 18:10:23 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: just deploy a malicious version of the website in prod directly, why the "i swear we're exploiting this bug". just steal 18:10:26 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: typical retoswap arb attitude :D 18:10:29 we'll find out when n1oc announces something funded 20 mins before it appears on site 18:11:09 @syntheticbird: you mean, like how the wrong btc address qr code was up on the website 18:11:48 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: no comment 18:12:09 dont tell g e o n i c or he will write another reddit post 18:12:24 i added a nice workflow for it, did redshade delete the commit history for it? 18:12:29 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: bone chilling message 18:12:37 im trying to forget that 18:12:50 im dying 18:12:57 why yall got me laughing every 30 seconds 18:13:24 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: ikr, i can make you laugh more if you give me your real name and home address 18:13:30 im infuriated that ive been deleted from history , forgotten 18:14:39 @syntheticbird: you deliver tickles? 18:15:40 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: i'll make you sparkles 😉 18:15:58 f*ck you i cringed myself 18:16:12 yup. confirmed 18:16:29 xmrpay should be used :p > <@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> heres the conspiracy: we dont fix the website to show update totals as soon as the amount is detected, because we want to grow the jetfund 18:16:36 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: at least we have a common understanding thats great 18:19:51 my uncle gave the best tickles 18:20:38 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: to this. I wasn't being totally random :-D just a little bit 18:21:41 @pw:xmr.mx: https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/monero.social/YCpZjpXhowkAeOgkHmsoSsub.png (image.png) 18:33:29 @syntheticbird:monero.social his hands arnt even half as cool as Diego's 6 fingered woman on the new website. 18:33:45 impressive chin tho. 21:15:07 Hi everyone, kicking off a community initiative to print 1,500 heavy-duty vinyl Monero stickers with free mail delivery for node runners & members across France. Just posted the full proposal, design mockup, and direct XMR address on Nostr: https://nostr.com/thread/3dccf0ad0f6cfdb7bc1d929fa6111c3e204cf8fce95effa9d7a95080a6d9d19f 21:15:07 would love your thoughts! 21:35:01 @john_xmr:matrix.org: Why Wownero and why in English? 21:35:01 Better design something with https://bank-exit.org in mind or link to their site if the goal is to convert French people.