02:51:28 luigi1111w: done 03:16:28 thanks 12:00:34 Did you know that all witdraw-buyer-seller-depoist chains are trackable in Monero? No? You should have read Breaking Monero. How many people are you endangering with your 'privacy' coin? 13:53:22 I can tell you why you can't stop the 'spam'. You are thinking in cult doctrine. If it was real spam, and I was selling Viagra for example - you could easily ban keywords and urls. Instead, stop being a sheep, think like a cult leader. Recoginse that this 'spam' is just some bullshit that you tell to the sheep. 13:53:22 When you do that, solution will present itself. Observe. 'spam' -> 'FUK talks bad things about Monero on our IRC' (Don't say that out loud obviously, that will get you excommunicated) Solution? Get off-the-shelf sentiment analyser, detect anyone who 'talks bad things about Monero' and ban them. 16:31:02 hellp 16:31:06 hello* 16:31:54 anyone here? 16:33:51 I want to report a problem with the gui monero wallet. more specifically, a potential vulnerability. not software, but human. 16:35:24 shouldn't you just submit an issue to https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui ? 16:35:53 I'm not sure. 16:36:33 better to write your problem description there, where it won't get lost 16:39:42 in many other cryptocurrency wallets you can create an unlimited number of addresses. in monero wallet you can also create an unlimited number of addresses, but these addresses cannot be deleted. In various other cryptocurrency wallets, a new address is generated each time you open the menu to receive funds. Why is this a problem? Let's imagine we buy monero from several exchangers and give 16:39:44 the same address because we don't want to generate a large number of addresses in our wallet and this is a vulnerability. if exchangers cooperate, they can see that this address was used several times to buy monero and this is already some information that can be handled. 16:39:46 Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)yY 16:43:32 So you're asking to generate a new one every time it's displayed ? 16:43:39 (ie, without being asked) 16:44:08 sounds like a non-problem. for KYC exchanges, not even workable. e.g. Kraken only lets you withdraw to pre-configured addresses. 16:45:01 There could certainly be a message saying "Clicking "get new one" is encouraged for your privacy" I guess. 16:45:44 the bank ATM analogy still holds - why does it matter? When you withdraw cash from an ATM, the bank knows it was you. 16:45:55 but they'll never have any idea what you do with that cash 16:46:29 The idea is that bank1 and bank2 don't know you1 and you2 are the same. 16:46:54 sure. so you have a different address for bank1 and bank2, so they will never know. 16:47:08 but you don't need a new address every time you withdraw from bank1 or bank2 16:47:43 I don't think this would prevent you from reusing an address. 16:47:57 We are talking about anonymity and making it difficult to generate new addresses is a vulnerability 16:48:20 Oh if it's difficult to do, then it should be fixed, sure. 16:48:54 it is very difficult to have many addresses in one wallet. because to get to the last address you have to scroll through the entire list of addresses ever used in your wallet 16:49:35 generating a new address is not difficult, but when there are too many addresses it becomes difficult to reach the last one generated 16:50:00 OK, fair. 16:50:31 File that request on https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui. 16:50:37 can't you just click on the bottom of the scrollbar and arrive at the last one immediately? 16:50:51 I don't have a githab 16:51:00 can you make a request? 16:51:29 hyc is that convenient? 16:51:48 it is the standard mechanism for navigating scrollbars 16:53:13 I suppose one could request a Sort Ordering control, to reverse the order of presentation, and put latest address at the top of the list instead of bottom 16:53:18 done, 3570 16:53:19 Imagine what will happen when there are around 1,000 of these addresses 16:53:56 moneromoo what? 16:54:06 I mean I filed it for you, issue 3570. 16:54:09 no different. still, a single click takes you to one end or the other of the list. 16:54:19 this is mostly a non-issue IMO 16:54:33 but whatever. let the GUI team work it out 16:54:52 Agreed, but there are people who concentrate on making the UI easier to use, so that'd be right up their alley. 16:55:14 Thank you very much. I hope the development team will think about this problem 17:06:23 the solution feather and other wallets use is to have a toggle that hides used addresses 17:07:10 inverting sort order could also work if used / unused addresses are clearly differentiated 17:09:32 there is a PR open for a redesign of the page that does what you want holeholehole 17:10:03 but reviewing large design changes like this is alway difficult so might take a while until it is included in a release 17:11:47 I think this is what selsta means https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/pull/2936 17:12:09 yes 17:21:13 https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/pull/2936 has this already been implemented? 17:25:17 implemented in code yes but not merged into the main codebase 20:16:14 FUK has bееn intеnsеly hostilе to Monеro for ovеr 4 yеars. Making minеrs for Monеro, making a pool for Monеro, making codе that Monеro copiеd, not using bugs to stеal millions from еxchangеs. Wow. Such grеat hostility.