01:50:04 <selsta> https://paste.debian.net/hidden/a9d4bed9/
06:14:58 <M5M400> .pap xtz
06:15:08 <M5M400> meh wrong chan
06:22:04 <Mochi101> omg M5M400... rude!
07:05:06 <sech1> my hash sums for v0.17.2.3: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/55888ceb/
07:07:56 <sech1> and sigs https://github.com/monero-project/gitian.sigs/pull/148
09:19:42 <mj-xmr[m]> I can't participate this time. Not enough RAM in my field office here.
10:49:57 <Guest35> How do I become a dev?
10:51:29 <Guest35> How do I become a developer?
10:51:41 <ErCiccione> developing
10:51:42 <moneromoooo> You start by reading code for simple programs and writing very simple ones. 
10:52:06 <moneromoooo> Like really simple ones. Enter a number, multiply them, print result.
10:52:09 <Guest35> So you don't have to sign up? Anybody can do it?
10:52:13 <moneromoooo> Then you ramp up difficulty.
10:52:54 <moneromoooo> At the moment, yes. In 20 years' time, maybe not. So hurry before govts make general purpose computing illegal.
10:53:09 <Guest35> I've been programming for years but I'd like to become a monero dev.
10:53:16 <moneromoooo> Oh.
10:53:32 <moneromoooo> Then you read monero code, and start improving what is broken.
10:53:52 <moneromoooo> That does not mean rewriting stuff to match your idea of what looks nice though, as many people want to do :)
10:54:01 <Guest35> Oh. That's easier than I thought. Thanks!
11:10:44 <Abdul> Hello Everyone,
11:12:48 <Abdul> Abdul here. working as a blockchain developer. I am currently working on a project where I have to create a monero wallet for each customer who signs up on my platform. So as to implement XMR as a payment method. I have read the documentation and I want to create my monero wallet for each user. Please guide me how can I achieve this?
11:15:26 <sech1> Abdul read everything here: https://www.getmonero.org/resources/developer-guides/wallet-rpc.html
11:16:52 <Abdul> I have read this already. When I run the first curl command, it shows me the error of Connection Refused. 
11:17:07 <Abdul> How to remove this error please?
11:19:28 <sech1> run monerod on the same machine where you run curl, for starters
11:23:39 <sech1> I mean monero-wallet-rpc
11:31:54 <Abdul> how to run monero-wallet-rpc??
11:34:16 <moneromoooo> monero-wallet-rpc --wallet-dir xxx --disable-rpc-login --rpc-bind-port 1234    (--disable-rpc-login is probably why this error, don't use in production unless you know what you're doing)
11:34:26 <moneromoooo> Try #monero for help using monero too.
11:45:42 <Abdul> Should I run this[monero-wallet-rpc --wallet-dir xxx --disable-rpc-login --rpc-bind-port 1234] command directly on linux? It prints command not found
11:47:09 <moneromoooo> Obviously you'd adapt it to your particular environment and setup.
11:47:23 <moneromoooo> ie, path to binary, whatever port you want to use etc.
11:51:23 <plowsof[m]> moneromoooo:  you seem happy today 😁
11:51:36 <Abdul> I already tried this all but I cant figure out how to make a port(18082) on my localhost. I tried to google everything but I am not able to do so
11:52:53 * moneromoooo double checks the webcam cover
11:53:03 <plowsof[m]> Abdul: i'll see if i can help you via PM
11:53:15 <moneromoooo> Or try #monero, that's what it's for
11:53:19 <Abdul> Yes Please
13:39:59 <hyc> pushed my sigs
14:50:37 <gingeropolous> wfaressuissia, yeah i have free machines, i've just always wanted to do it propery with the sigs and all and have never set it up right
14:51:40 <hyc> it seems the depends makefiles flake out on ubuntu 21. parsing host / host_os incorrectly
14:52:21 <hyc> which is strange because that comes from config.guess and config.sub, and their output looks correct to me
14:52:36 <wfaressuissia> gingeropolous: can you build some dockerfile on one of those ?
14:52:54 <gingeropolous> if you have some copypasta im glad to do t
14:52:56 <gingeropolous> it
16:45:14 <wfaressuissia> `docker --version` which version do you have there ?
17:15:51 <gingeropolous> lets see... on one machine, Docker version 20.10.7, build f0df350
17:19:02 <gingeropolous> on another... Docker version 20.10.8, build 3967b7d28e
18:42:36 <Moonlight> What's brackin?
18:51:38 <hyc> I think I'm gonna write a gitian-runner DockerFile to do all the setup
18:52:09 <hyc> get rid of all these host dependencies
18:54:42 <wfaressuissia> and after that we can compare our dockerfiles
18:54:58 <hyc> what does yours do?
18:55:23 <wfaressuissia> everything, i'd just made above files and relevant reports with it
18:55:38 <wfaressuissia> * except `gpg --detach-sign ...`
18:55:54 <hyc> above where? got a link?
18:56:21 <wfaressuissia> "https://paste.debian.net/hidden/129e9fbf/" these files 
18:56:54 <hyc> so you ran gitian-build.py 
18:57:14 <wfaressuissia> no, just static dockerfile 
18:57:43 <hyc> where's this dockerfile?
19:01:36 <wfaressuissia> "curl https://paste.debian.net/plainh/2330f1f2 | base64 -d | vim -" 
19:02:22 <wfaressuissia> This latest version with added cache which works with `DOCKER_BUILDKIT=1 docker build ...`
19:04:47 <wfaressuissia> the most important is that it reproduces the same hashes and generates compatible (but not 100% identical) report
19:05:55 <hyc> I see
19:07:15 <wfaressuissia> `docker build --rm --tag gitian:osx --build-arg COMMIT=2222bea92fdeef7e6449d2d784cdfc3012641ee1 --build-arg MAKEFLAGS=-j5 --build-arg=BUILD_DESC=monero/contrib/gitian/gitian-osx.yml .`
19:08:58 <wfaressuissia> with this `DOCKER_BUILDKIT=1` it's possible to add some cache and export easily files from docker with `DOCKER_BUILDKIT=1 docker build --rm . --output - > test.tar`
19:09:11 <wfaressuissia> and then only the last step `gpg --detach-sign ...`
19:14:44 <wfaressuissia> there are -j2 for boost compilation and -j1 for openssl for some reasons
19:15:17 <hyc> maybe eats too much RAM to do more? strange
19:15:24 <wfaressuissia> -j2 for boost doesn't change final hashes, but openssl compilation doesn't work with arbitrary -jN 
19:15:48 <wfaressuissia> Can we fix openssl if it's possible and remove -j2 for boost ?
19:16:07 <wfaressuissia> with global MAKEFLAGS there is no need in those static values
19:16:12 <hyc> test your own build first. I'm surprised openssl is broken
19:19:27 <wfaressuissia> "test your own build first. " what to test ? it will produce the same binaries as all you got from full procedure for repro builds
19:20:08 <hyc> no I mean, test building openssl with -jX instead of -j1
19:20:30 <hyc> is it actually broken, or is it just that the hashes don't match
19:20:35 <wfaressuissia> I tried few weeks or months ago and there was some error during compilation, not runtime
19:21:06 <wfaressuissia> I could dive deeper, but decided to skip that. Maybe it's some known problem 
19:21:35 <hyc> yeah something like that should be known to the openss devs already
19:22:46 <wfaressuissia> "https://github.com/archlinux/svntogit-packages/blob/packages/openssl/trunk/PKGBUILD#L41" since there is no fixed -j1 in good distros then it's likely problem with *.mk file for openssl in depends/...
21:14:07 <moneromoooo> Why is zmq enabled by default, but not the pub/sub part, which AFAIK is the main thing it has over JSON/RPC ?
21:39:28 <hyc> good question
22:37:47 <jtgrassie> the zmq RPC stuff, which predates the pub/sub stuff (and is/was used by LWS) always defaulted to enabled.
22:40:27 <moneromoooo> I was unclear. I was asking: given zmq enabled by default, why is the pub/sub part not also so ?
22:43:03 <jtgrassie> is it not? So long as one doesn't --no-zmq, --zmq-pub works in a similar fasion to the --*-notify options.
22:44:09 <moneromoooo> It was not as of... some time ago. I wasn't looking at master, admittedly.
22:55:09 <jtgrassie> I'm pretty sure it's been that way since the pub/sub stuff first got merged
22:57:21 <jtgrassie> (so v0.17)