01:48:15 <sosse[m]1> So, a new hardwallet special for monero comes out soon. From monerujo. Now, I have a question. Does anybody know seed lenght it will have? So maybe I can send some xmr to a wallet, not store the seed in my head and restore the wallet in the new cold wallet ehen it comes out
01:48:40 <sosse[m]1> Store the seed in my head*
02:10:33 <nikg83[m]> <sosse[m]1> "So, a new hardwallet special for..." <- It’s not a special hardware, but a android app 
02:11:15 <sosse[m]1> Can I see somewhere info about this? 
02:12:05 <sosse[m]1> Thanks, I'll try to search for info about this now
02:20:23 <zwischenzug> Does stagenet and mainnet run the same code?  I'm learning the levin protocol, and the Handshake response messages look like they're encoded differently based on whether I connect to 192.110.160.146:18080 (mainnet seed node), vs 192.110.160.146:38080 (stagenet seed node)
02:22:44 <zwischenzug> Mainnet is returning a "local_peerlist_new", which encodes the field names of every item in the list (looks like every item has adr, addr, m_ip, m_port, F.type, and id fields)
02:23:40 <zwischenzug> Stagenet returns "local_peerlist", where it appears that 8kB of binary data is encoded in a single "string"
02:25:25 <sosse[m]1> <nikg83[m]> "It’s not a special hardware, but..." <- I meant they're developing and/or waiting for finding for their hardwallet https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/oxvu8l/offline_monerujo_is_coming/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
02:25:42 <sosse[m]1> * I meant they're developing and/or waiting for funding for their hardwallet https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/oxvu8l/offline_monerujo_is_coming/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
02:25:51 <zwischenzug> Docs say "Stagenet is technically equivalent to mainnet, both in terms of features and consensus rules", but not sure if the similarity also applies to the p2p protocol
02:30:28 <zwischenzug> Looks like there is some conditional logic around this: https://github.com/monero-project/monero/blob/58ce16d4d91518b674a5d46419809f56f71d9114/src/p2p/p2p_protocol_defs.h#L197-L225, so maybe this is a bit in flux
02:36:32 <nikg83[m]> <sosse[m]1> "I meant they're developing and/..." <- Monerujo SideKick is an Android app which is a functional replacement for dedicated Monero hardware wallets. 
08:30:28 <Halver[m]> Hi, could somebody please briefly explain how memory pool / tx pool are stored ? or give a good link ?
08:30:28 <Halver[m]> I guess it's decentralized, but does each mining node have it's own tx pool ?
08:30:28 <Halver[m]> Or can it be shared between nodes mining together ?
08:30:28 <Halver[m]> Thanks.
09:01:14 <wfaressuissia> zwischenzug, "https://github.com/monero-project/monero/blob/master/src/p2p/p2p_protocol_defs.h", why did you look at that specific commit, but not master or release-v0.17 ? 
09:37:47 <moneromooo> zwischenzug: they use the same code, but they'll include an identifier in the handshake telling the other which network they are.
09:38:28 <moneromooo> Halver[m]: they're stored in txpool_blob (the actual tx) and txpool_meta (metadata) tables.
09:38:53 <moneromooo> Each node has its own, since they're not in the chain yet.
12:04:20 <ellpepe[m]> there is still a Delta between the #monero-dev:libera.chat and the #monero-dev:monero.social , isn't it?
13:55:21 <carrington[m]> Seems to be the occasional IRC message not getting through
18:33:21 <selsta> hyc: could you take a look here? https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues/7957
18:33:31 <selsta> you probably know that code part best
18:54:55 <Rucknium[m]> Isn't it Core's responsibility to maintain IRC and Matrix?
18:54:56 <Rucknium[m]> For Pete's sake someone needs to fix the bridge. Matrix users saw 1 of 2 of selsta 's messages.
19:06:50 <moneromooo> It's nobody's. At a push, the person who put the bridge up. But they'd be totally in the right if they decided to take it down because can't be bothered fixing.
19:13:45 <hyc> selsta: looks like a non-issue to me
19:15:50 <hyc> I suppose it'd be good code hygiene to remove the unnecessary checks. and while I tried to make sure it was safe for multiple monerods to use the same DB concurrently, I no longer see any use case for it
19:16:18 <hyc> it made more sense before we had tor/i2p integration, so you could run multiple monerods with different network settings
19:33:15 <Rucknium[m]> "As stewards of the project, the Core Team manages and maintains infrastructure where centralization cannot be avoided (domains, website, github repositories...)" https://web.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/
19:34:17 <Rucknium[m]> The server is also described as the "Monero Core Team Matrix server" here:
19:34:17 <Rucknium[m]> https://forum.monero.space/d/79-how-to-join-the-monero-core-team-matrix-server-web
19:35:31 <sethsimmons> We own the matrix server, Matrix own's the bridge.
19:35:48 <UkoeHB> Rucknium[m]: for the community channel maybe?
19:35:50 <sethsimmons> They are issues with the bridge that we have worked with them at length to resolve and are not due to misconfigs etc.
19:35:57 <sethsimmons> The Libera bridge has been flaky since the move from Freenode.
19:36:16 <sethsimmons> We're doing what we can but the issues are not something we can fix right now, as far as we can tell.
19:39:19 <Rucknium[m]> Seth:  I see. Thanks for clarifying.
19:39:33 <sethsimmons> yw.
19:42:10 <Rucknium[m]> My main concern is that I have been telling potential researchers and devs to join the matrix server, and now the bridge is finicky again. Not your fault, of course.
19:42:44 <sethsimmons> Of course it's not ideal and causes issues, and will be fixed ASAP.
19:43:09 <sethsimmons> If user's have issues they can join the direct Libera channel via Matrix, i.e. #monero-dev:libera.chat
19:43:41 <sethsimmons> In theory that channel should not have issues, but again, that's all up to the Matrix team and is not supported or run by us at all.
20:07:44 <moneromooo> I didn't realize the server was not matrix's. My comment is half mooted then.
20:08:10 <sethsimmons> Half moooted, if you will :D
20:08:26 <moneromooo> I guess sooo.
20:55:21 <ohex23[m]> hey ppl, I think someone from the Monero team should but monero.com. I see it's available now and if it isn't owned by the official monero team, pretty sure that's a huge risk for having very successful phishing attacks.
20:55:29 <ohex23[m]> should buy, ofc*
20:57:42 <ohex23[m]> s/but/buy/
20:58:02 <ohex23[m]> s/hey ppl, I think someone from the Monero team should but monero.com. I see it's available now and if it isn't owned by the official monero team, pretty sure that's a huge risk for having very successful phishing attacks./hey ppl, I think someone from the Monero team should buy monero.com. I see it might be available now and if it isn't owned by the official monero team, pretty sure that's a huge risk for having very successful phishing
20:58:02 <ohex23[m]> attacks./
21:22:12 <hyc> it kinda sends the wrong message, regardless. monero isn't a company
21:22:53 <Rucknium[m]> Just buy it to re-direct elsewhere, maybe
21:23:29 <plowsof[m]> rbrunner posted the backstory to this site on reddit. very interesting