07:41:26 <mj-xmr[m]> <selsta> "now I just have to find out..." <- Wouldn't openssl3 as well be too much for one PR? 
09:47:36 <mj-xmr[m]> In 7953, jrhe raised a question if we couldn't deliver RPi static builds of Core via getmonero.org. Take note, that a compilation of RPi on users' machines could easily take some 4 hours.
09:48:27 <mj-xmr[m]> Also, our CI is already able to compile for Arm v7 and 8
09:52:00 <selsta> We would need to add depends / gitian support for it.
09:52:05 <sech1> Every time I tried, aarch64 build of monerod just crashes on my RPi3 trying to do some AES instructions
09:52:17 <sech1> why RPi doesn't support
09:52:19 <sech1> *which
10:11:27 <mj-xmr[m]> sech1: a silly question, maybe, but have you tried: `cmake -D NO_AES=ON (...)` ?
10:11:42 <mj-xmr[m]> <selsta> "We would need to add depends..." <- I'd apply for that, if you agree.
10:11:44 <sech1> No
10:12:08 <sech1> And I only tried official binaries, or my own gitian builds
10:12:52 <mj-xmr[m]> This sounds for me, that we'd need to run at least the unit tests for the supported binaries.
10:13:03 <sech1> Also, p2pool binary works just fine on RPi and it uses RandomX lib too, so this AES crash comes from somewhere ele
10:13:27 <sech1> probably from Cryptonight PoW code
10:13:43 <mj-xmr[m]> I have a couple of Rpi1, 3 and 4s, so I could test it.
12:01:14 <zeynep> what is the meaning of error, "invalid block template received from daem.."
12:06:36 <moneromooo> You probably create a block template which does not abide by the consensus rules. Check your changes.
12:08:39 <zeynep> welcome moneromoo, please don't misunderstand. I hav not explained it well. It was about XHV havend error message. And the message was coming write after xmrig error.
12:09:09 <moneromooo> Then you're definitely in the wrong place.
12:10:00 <zeynep> Well, ok any directions
12:11:50 <zeynep> ok, bye, glad for your reply moneromoo
12:55:33 <ChilliTomato[m]> hi is good idea write app to mining to pool?
12:57:38 <ChilliTomato[m]> in c# windows 10
12:58:54 <ChilliTomato[m]> i dont like pay outhers
12:59:50 <ChilliTomato[m]> meybe anothers pay me :)
13:01:54 <ChilliTomato[m]> s/meybe/maybe/
13:02:44 <ChilliTomato[m]> s/meybe/maybe/, s/anothers/another/
13:03:39 <ChilliTomato[m]> no malwere normal app
13:03:54 <ChilliTomato[m]> s/malwere/malware/
13:05:45 <moneromooo> An easy to use UI for pool mining would be nice.
13:19:02 <ChilliTomato[m]> https://www.getmonero.org/resources/developer-guides/daemon-rpc.html
13:19:30 <ChilliTomato[m]> all what i need is here
13:19:56 <ChilliTomato[m]> for free :)
13:22:37 <ChilliTomato[m]> so lets get work
13:23:07 <ChilliTomato[m]> malware is the best solution how to mining
13:23:54 <plowsof[m]> ChilliTomato[m]: Hol' up? 
13:26:19 <ChilliTomato[m]> i need xmr malware source code plz
13:27:12 <ChilliTomato[m]> in c#
13:28:49 <ChilliTomato[m]> no hackers here?
13:29:01 <sech1> facepalm.jpg
13:29:02 <sech1> get out
13:30:28 <sethsimmons> Gone on the Matrix side.
13:39:10 <gingeropolous> lulz
13:40:20 <mj-xmr[m]> <ChilliTomato[m]> "meybe anothers pay me :)" <- Gosh. When I look how little I made in September, then I also thinks, that meybe anothers pay me, but not the Community.
13:40:20 <mj-xmr[m]> I will ask for the payment in mid/end-October. I will write it up on Reddit.
13:49:42 <mj-xmr[m]> <moneromooo> "An easy to use UI for pool..." <- I know wxWidgets.
13:50:01 <mj-xmr[m]> I need to quit my daily job....
15:20:02 <sech1> moneromooo is there any way to disable dns checkpoint in handle_incoming_block? I regularly get huge delays on receiving new blocks, sometimes up to more than a minute. Example (20 second delay): https://pastebin.com/EYNarS8Q
15:20:09 <sech1> this is detrimental for mining
15:21:33 <sech1> as far as I can see, it ignores command line option here: https://github.com/monero-project/monero/blob/master/src/cryptonote_core/cryptonote_core.cpp#L1583
15:22:37 <selsta> I think someone posted a patch for it a year ago or so
15:22:54 <selsta> hmm, might be as easy as removing that line
15:23:42 <sech1> I get these annoying "is your monerod stuck?" warnings in p2pool log every hour. I wondered why and set log level to 1 to find out
15:23:42 <selsta> sech1: did you try `--disable-dns-checkpoints` ?
15:23:53 <sech1> this command line only works at startup
15:24:05 <sech1> handle_incomin_block updates checkpoints unconditionally
15:24:34 <sech1> hmm, actually I was wrong
15:24:41 <sech1> nvm, command line should work
21:46:35 <alex[m]123456733> It's really inconvenient that the only way one can send a transfer with the fee deducted from the transfer amount is through using the sweep command
21:47:12 <alex[m]123456733> The normal transfer command should include an option that allows you to deduct the fee from the transferred amount automatically.
21:48:13 <moneromooo> Why is it inconvenient ?
21:48:43 <alex[m]123456733> Because sometimes you need to send a specific amount, fee included, and you don't want to send the entire balance.
21:48:59 <alex[m]123456733> I.e. receiver covers fee.
21:49:04 <moneromooo> Ah.
21:49:14 <alex[m]123456733> Extremely common situation.
21:49:31 * moneromooo tries to detect whether that is sarcasm or not...
21:49:42 <alex[m]123456733> Absolutely not.
21:50:26 <moneromooo> Do you have an example or such a case (not just "I want to") ? I can't think of one off thr top of my head.
21:56:18 <alex[m]123456733> It is relatively common practice for the payment processing industry in general for the recipient of the transfer to cover fees. Recipients are often businesses, and customers hate whenever the final price that they need to pay is more than the price shown (because payment would be price + transfer fee)
21:57:56 <alex[m]123456733> Credit cards, for example, take the fee from the merchant, not the customer. In crypto, this would mean the customer sending the transfer with the "include fee in tx" option enabled. Bitcoin, after all, has the "subtractfeefrom" option when sending a transfer, precisely for this purpose.
21:57:57 <moneromooo> Fair. Feel free to file a bug asking for this.
21:58:41 <alex[m]123456733> OK.
21:59:09 <moneromooo> Gotta be confusing in the accounting though.
22:02:19 <alex[m]123456733> Not really. Take the price, take the payment you received, subtract first from the other, put the received into the revenue, the rest into "fee" expense.
22:02:49 <alex[m]123456733> Just like with credit card payments by your customers.
22:05:01 <razor[m]> fuck man i lost my main wallet and seeds
22:15:24 <alex[m]123456733> https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues/7980
22:42:14 <razor[m]> transfer_split points to nominal expends on the surface 
22:42:34 <razor[m]> it wont plug in perfect