16:08:42 <r4v3r23[m]> <selsta> "nikg83: UkoeHB found another..." <- besides that is everything else ready?
16:09:53 <selsta> r4v3r23[m]: well it depends on what ready means, code is ready, yes
16:28:16 <r4v3r23[m]> <selsta> "r4v3r23: well it depends on what..." <- ready to take next steps towards actually hard forking
16:31:43 <r4v3r23[m]> AFAIK the fee-change PR is what was holding up progress but thats since been solved
16:33:23 <r4v3r23[m]> the plan was to fork in March, we are almost in April and its been 2 months since the last dev meeting - maybe its time to revisit and update the community on v18 status?
16:42:40 <selsta> We can do another dev meeting on Saturday / Sunday.
16:44:45 <selsta> ErCiccione: I think you managed the last one, do you have time again?
16:54:37 <ErCiccione> 17 UTC? Sure. no problem
16:58:58 <r4v3r23[m]> selsta: thx
17:27:23 <pysticmunk[m]> pardon
17:27:23 <pysticmunk[m]> does the deterministic build produce the same hash?
17:27:23 <pysticmunk[m]> iow, can I build from source and verify the release version by comparing the hashes?
17:30:17 <moneromooo> Yes.
20:30:18 -xmr-pr- Gingeropolous opened issue #8225: high log level causes high memory usage during IBD / fresh sync
20:30:18 -xmr-pr- > https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues/8225
21:27:04 <nahnahnah722828[> My question to Monero Devs :... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/8f814631072ecf35fea0c28f5b45b545c3c36a33)
21:29:12 <merope> Already answered in #monero:monero.social 
21:29:46 <nahnahnah722828[> merope: Trying to get how monero devs feel about this 
21:30:45 <merope> You'll get the exact same answer, but in a more annoyed tone. This room is for actual development talk
21:48:26 <UkoeHB> nahnahnah722828[: in a PoW network like Monero, fees incentivize miners to include txs in blocks. If miners did not get fees, then why would they bother spending bandwidth/computation on relaying and validating new txs?
22:41:48 <escapethe3ra[m]> <erciccione[m]> "17 UTC? Sure. no problem" <- is it Saturday or Sunday? selsta 
22:42:34 <selsta> I don'r care personally
22:42:57 <selsta> whatever fits better for you ErCiccione
23:09:08 <nahnahnah722828[> Is Sepharis getting implemented in the next hard fork ?
23:09:27 <nahnahnah722828[> Seraphis*
23:10:44 <nikg83[m]> nahnahnah722828[: No, seraphis is still wip 
23:16:28 <nahnahnah722828[> <nikg83[m]> "No, seraphis is still wip..." <- Any chance we’ll see Seraphis development done in the next 18 months ? 
23:16:28 <nahnahnah722828[> This is Seraphis feature is truly amazing and much needed : “New wallet tier allowing fast light wallet syncing with greater privacy than existing solutions.”
23:26:26 <UkoeHB> nahnahnah722828[: work is ongoing https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/290
23:32:39 <r4v3r23[m]> > <@nahnahnah722828:matrix.org> Any chance we’ll see Seraphis development done in the next 18 months ?... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/94fbf87aef6752332726dec5d891b3109e499ea7)
23:32:58 <r4v3r23[m]>  * possibly
23:44:16 <nahnahnah722828[> However one thing that I saw some Reddit users mention, was concerns with the increase in the blockchain size that Seraphis could bring, which would make downloading the whole blockchain too big for a lot of users once Monero grows even more