08:30:28 <ErCiccione> What about a 'network upgrade status update' meeting next saturday/sunday?
10:19:05 <sech1> ErCiccione yes, we need to discuss remaining PRs to merge and also when to start v15 testnet
10:24:38 <jberman[m]> I'm in
11:20:19 <ErCiccione> selsta vtnerd?
11:20:57 <selsta> Saturday yes Sunday maybe
11:20:57 <ErCiccione> also, saturday or sunday? 
11:22:59 <moneromooo> Both!
12:58:21 <UkoeHB> moneromooo: where can I find the code that checks if you own multiple outputs with the same onetime address?
13:01:29 <moneromooo> process_new_transaction
13:01:29 <moneromooo> auto kit = m_pub_keys.find(tx_scan_info[o].in_ephemeral.pub);
13:02:54 <UkoeHB> cool thanks
13:48:36 <hyc> currently our gitian builds use macosx SDK 10.4. It seems if we bump up to 11.0, we could build both x86 and arm mac binaries
13:48:37 <hyc> https://iraspa.org/blog/compiling-for-the-apple-m1/
13:48:48 <hyc> I haven't tried this yet
13:49:09 <hyc> SDKs here https://github.com/phracker/MacOSX-SDKs/releases
13:50:23 <hyc> anyone feel like giving it a shot?
13:53:35 <selsta> it would be better if we only use the new sdk version for arm mac binaries
13:54:05 <selsta> otherwise a lot of old x86 macs can't use monero anymore
13:54:59 <hyc> ah, so we'd need both SDKs
13:56:34 <hyc> macos 10 is pretty old now, macos 12 was released last yeaar
14:00:46 <hyc> macos 10.4 still had support for powerpc, but we don't support that explicitly
14:02:14 <hyc> macos 10.14 is the last release with 32bit x86 support. we also don't support 32bit.
14:02:42 <hyc> 10.14 is from Sept 2018
14:03:42 <selsta> we currently have 10.10 as the min version
14:04:04 <hyc> october 2014
14:04:12 <hyc> that seems a bit excessive
14:07:43 <hyc> anyway, I'll see about using 2 SDKs
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14:09:38 <hyc> so 10.10 has been officially unsupported for over 4 years
14:09:52 <selsta> apple only supports versions for 3 years or so
14:09:53 <w[m]> Perhaps only supporting 10.15+ makes sense?
14:10:20 <hyc> I believe if we install an 11.x SDK we can still tell it to target 10.15
14:11:07 <selsta> we don't backport fixes and consensus changes to older versions, that's why it is easier for e.g. bitcoin to only support macOS 10.15 because they can tell people to use older versions
14:13:21 <hyc> so you're saying we need to keep supporting 10.10?
14:15:25 <selsta> 10.10 no, but 10.15 is quite drastic in my opinion
14:15:45 <selsta> 2 SDKs would be ideal, if possible
14:16:05 <hyc> I'll grab the 11.1 sdk and see if it can target older 10.x
14:17:15 <selsta> 10.15 means hardware from around 2011 can't participate anymore
14:17:43 <hyc> that doesn't seem drastic to me
14:20:35 <selsta> currently we support hardware from 2007
14:20:36 <selsta> might be ok
14:20:48 <hyc> our toolchain.cmake.in sets  SET(CMAKE_OSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET "10.08")
14:21:03 <selsta> 10.10 is the min version from what I know
14:26:57 <w[m]> <selsta> "10.15 means hardware from around..." <- Again, not a Mac guy so forgive me.... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/e596abe9b276e86c7e9b96496b6d08b1f7383703)
14:27:01 <w[m]> * Again, not a Mac guy so forgive me.
14:27:01 <w[m]> But my pc is from 2008.
14:27:01 <w[m]> I dont expect to be able to use 14.10 passed EOL date. (Around the same as Mac 10.10 release and eol)
14:27:01 <w[m]> Do the older mac hardware not support upgrading the os to 10.15+?
14:27:15 <w[m]> * Again, not a Mac guy so forgive me.
14:27:15 <w[m]> But my pc is from 2008.
14:27:15 <w[m]> I dont expect to be able to use ubuntu 14.10 passed EOL date. (Around the same as Mac 10.10 release and eol)
14:27:15 <w[m]> Do the older mac hardware not support upgrading the os to 10.15+?
14:27:38 <selsta> w[m]: see https://eshop.macsales.com/guides/Mac_OS_X_Compatibility
14:27:52 <w[m]> Thank you
14:29:27 <plowsof[m]> unrelated but i use the 32bit binaries for linux, please spare my life 😟
14:31:31 <w[m]> *looks* like most post 2012+ macs support 10.15
14:31:31 <w[m]> I didnt do a deep dive. Just skimmed over a few sections 
14:34:50 <w[m]> (and pre 2012 lacks support for 10.15+).
14:38:12 <w[m]> <selsta> "10.15 means hardware from around..." <- So ^^ this 
14:38:47 <w[m]> * So ^^ this 
14:38:47 <w[m]> Thanks for helping me clarify 
15:02:55 <hyc> plowsof what are you using that's still on 32bit linux?
15:05:22 <plowsof[m]> an old intel 'eeebox' (2 core / 2GB ram) - the fan is on the way out, so i will be putting it out of its misery soon 
15:08:12 <plowsof[m]> im waiting for the Pi Zero 2 to 'officially' support 64 bit for the 'upgrade' :) 
15:12:54 <zeroeff[m]> plowsof[m]: have you looked at the radxa zero? costs about the same as current prices for pi zero, much nicer specs
15:13:04 <zeroeff[m]> i got monerod on it briefly
15:21:52 <Smellyslab> does anyone know how you could make your own currency using the monerod source?
15:22:14 <Smellyslab> also is this question fork related because if so disregard it as it breaks the ToS of the channel
15:23:39 <MajesticBank> if you have to ask, then it's not for you
15:24:59 <ErCiccione> Meeting saturday at 17:00 UTC? selsta moneromooo hyc UKoeHB jberman sech1 etc
15:25:01 <Smellyslab> its statements like that that piss me off
15:25:09 <sech1> good for me
15:25:20 <Smellyslab> devs think its in anyway useful to just say stupid shit like that
15:25:48 <ErCiccione> Smellyslab: this is not the correct place to ask help about monero forks. Try on other channels like #monero 
15:25:53 <Smellyslab> thanks
15:39:39 <hyc> ErCiccione: yeah that worksforme
15:40:00 <UkoeHB> probably works for me
15:40:02 <hyc> of course updating the Mac SDK couldn't be straightforward...
15:40:24 <hyc> requires a newer version of native_cctools, because they changed the format of library archives in the SDK
15:40:32 <hyc> and old cctools linker doesn't recognize them
15:41:06 <hyc> and native_cctools needs another helper library to read the new format
16:14:52 <Hueristic> Remove the Update prompt from Winblows GUI it is hosing the package
16:32:15 <moneromooo> If you expect anyone to do anything, at least give some details showing why what you're asking is sensible.
16:37:29 <selsta> I don't even understand what Hueristic asked.
16:38:16 <selsta> but they left already anyway
16:39:13 <moneromooo> Oh. Well, that's an easy resolution then :)
17:55:28 <ErCiccione> https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/700
20:20:58 <monerobull[m]> https://www.reddit.com/r/monerosupport/comments/ugzy6m/p2pool_installation_failed/
20:21:05 <monerobull[m]> any ideas?
20:22:04 <sethforprivacy> Might be better for #monero-gui
20:22:22 <monerobull[m]> sorry, didnt know thats a thing
20:25:16 <sethforprivacy> monerobull[m]: np, and it's pretty on topic for here too, just more likely to get answers there 🙂
21:09:46 <jeffro256[m]> Hey shouldn't the version.cpp.in file be updated on the master branch ?
22:19:50 <hyc> no. master doesn't correspond to any release version
22:44:01 <CalmrAge[m]> Hello? :)
22:44:23 <CalmrAge[m]> Somehow monerod's freezing (on 7.1 release - only on exit(for now)) on OpenBSD fixed my audio bug (on this boot) .. perhaps there is some correlation, some system(?) that they both use?... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/1d4ef112d4545a085a067e00fff2e654fb2509e5)
22:45:21 <CalmrAge[m]> Please, this is very important to me ._.
22:45:47 <CalmrAge[m]> I have to restart my computer (sometimes more than once) when this bug happens (almost every day).. it is extremely annoying
23:39:54 <w[m]> > <@dalek:anontier.nl> Meh, I'm giving up on Monero on OpenBSD
23:39:55 <w[m]> > It's not like capitalism is the way to live, anyways. https://codeberg.org/fossy/my_writings/src/branch/main/c/capitalism.md
23:39:55 <w[m]> This chat room is for monero development.
23:39:55 <w[m]> Try asking in #monero:monero.social  perhaps better luck