02:41:30 <spirobel[m]> <spirobel[m]> "> <@spirobel:matrix.org> Okay..." <- I did some more work on this. It seems like the issue is with creating transactions to integrated addresses. I detailed the steps in an issue: https://github.com/monero-ecosystem/monero-javascript/issues/90 I will use decodeIntegratedAddress and drop the paymentId and move forward for now because createTx does not want to eat the paymentId. 
03:19:04 <spirobel[m]> * the paymentId. EDIT: or I messed up in the way I create integrated addresses and the integrated address was faulty 🙃😅
06:54:26 <moneromooo> It was fixed. And promptly reintroduced by some other patch.
06:55:03 <moneromooo> I did not bother to debug again since it's harmless (well, the original one was anyway).
06:55:24 <moneromooo> Well, IIRC it was not 100% fixed, just massively lessened. It was still technically racy.
07:12:54 <TrasherDK> PING
07:22:21 <TrasherDK> Okay. I give up. No testnet for me :(
07:37:38 <moneromooo> What's your problem with testnet ?
09:57:13 <TrasherDK> I can't build master on my build host. Slackware 14.2, and I can't build static on 15.0 either.
10:13:41 <moneromooo> Oh, that. There was a patch to revert, which likely broke old standard libs (or that one anyway).
10:13:45 * moneromooo goes look it u[
10:15:35 <moneromooo> 801568d0c6dadfcf4992eaf7ed5565e5682ad248
11:52:21 <HenryHollingwort> easy low ball question: is there any difference between a txid and a transaction hash? The terms seem to be used interchangeably in the wallet RPC. Also is there a formal definition of the relationship between a 'transfer' and a 'transaction'? I'm guessing 'transfer' is a wallet concept that doesn't really exist at the protocol level (there are just transactions)?
12:02:29 <moneromooo> They are two words for the same thing.
12:03:19 <moneromooo> A transaction is the actual thing that goes onto the chain. A transfer is not something with a specific definition.
12:03:43 <moneromooo> Transfer was probably chosen to avoid confusion.
12:06:29 <HenryHollingwort> thank you :) 
12:10:36 <hyc> transfer is a verb, the act of creating a transaction. transaction is a noun.
12:11:09 <hyc> could as easily have used the word "transact" instead of "transfer" ...
12:14:56 <HenryHollingwort> makes sense, my question arose from seeing many transfers from a single transaction from `incoming_transfers` rpc call
12:15:31 <moneromooo> incoming_transfers has one entry per output.
14:41:09 <gingeropolous> are there just a boatload of ppl mining testnet? or is the diff adjustment borked? 
14:41:48 <gingeropolous> i guess monerod itself would message a warning about absurd changes
14:45:38 <sech1> I think only 1 or 2 nodes are mining now
14:45:41 <sech1> p2pool test is over
14:48:56 <HenryHollingwort> i'm mining on testnet atm
15:37:31 <TrasherDK> moneromoo While I understand what the hash is, my gitfu is not adequate, to actually make a patch. Disclaimer: I had a few drinks.
15:45:40 <selsta> try `git revert [hash]`
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