04:36:10 <selsta> .merge+ 8296
04:36:10 <xmr-pr> Added
05:45:05 <MeowingCat> what does crypto_core_ed25519_scalar_reduce() do?
06:00:14 <moneromooo> Probably reduce a scalar, which means modulo... some large number. Canonicalization.
06:18:51 <MeowingCat> loooks like MyMonero is hashing private spend key with Keccak256 for private view key
06:36:13 <rbrunner> MyMonero in particular? Isn't this just the normal, general way how view private keys are derived from spend private keys in all of Monero?
06:38:32 <endogenic> yes, I have a PR for it
06:38:36 <endogenic> 16 byte seed support
06:38:38 <endogenic> old PR
06:38:48 <endogenic> i will reintroduce it though
06:39:10 <endogenic> i upgraded mymonero away from those seeds a few yrs ago
06:39:16 <endogenic> but clients still need support
06:40:22 <MeowingCat> Base58("18" + PUB_SPEND_KEY + PUB_VIEW_KEY + Keccak256("18" + PUB_SPEND_KEY + PUB_VIEW_KEY)[0:8])
06:40:24 <MeowingCat> doing this
06:40:28 <MeowingCat> butttt
06:40:43 <MeowingCat> reduce function is coming from libsodium thing
06:48:55 <MeowingCat> https://github.com/jedisct1/libsodium/blob/447cd270d993d30bcf1ca436a416d6a052694542/src/libsodium/crypto_core/ed25519/ref10/ed25519_ref10.c#L2236
06:48:58 <MeowingCat> this thing
06:49:31 <MeowingCat> looks simple
06:49:35 <MeowingCat> for porting lol
06:53:25 <rbrunner> What are you trying to port, and from where to where?
06:55:07 <MeowingCat> implementing HD wallet thing for Monero in C#
06:55:50 <MeowingCat> im gonna port libsodium's sc25519_reduce()
06:56:52 <MeowingCat> i think building TX structures and signing will be very difficult
07:03:25 <rbrunner> I am a bit confused. If you implement a general "HD wallet thing", why do you check what MyMonero is doing? Why not check what the Monero core software does?
07:07:15 <MeowingCat> im looking everywhere but we will use lesser words like MyMonero
07:12:07 <rbrunner> Use lesser words?
07:14:11 <MeowingCat> oh i mean short private seed
07:20:58 <moneromooo> If you want to use yet another seed format, you'll just confuse and annoy people.
07:21:28 <moneromooo> And we're apparently also going to :D
07:22:07 <MeowingCat> yess but words are also used for BTC and ETH
07:22:35 <MeowingCat> i can use more words and split for others if needed
07:23:05 <MeowingCat> i think these things are not in big endian because of networking or something
07:23:50 <MeowingCat> damn C# can't just easily interpete byte array parts as something like int
07:23:57 <MeowingCat> millions of things
07:24:57 <MeowingCat> these things are making me crazy
07:24:59 <MeowingCat> i wanna sleep
07:35:24 <rbrunner> By all means, if you want to implement seeds with less words, implement this: https://github.com/tevador/polyseed
07:35:55 <rbrunner> Anything else is just looking for disaster and confusion, IMHO
19:01:15 <mj-xmr[m]> jeffro256: please join Community
19:01:33 <mj-xmr[m]> We're discussing your CCS proposal
21:39:13 <selsta> https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues/8360 can someone check if this makes sense? should if there is an rpc error, should there also be an error with the HTTP status code instead of 200?
21:40:46 <selsta> that was badly formulated.. looking into the github issue should make it clear
21:46:58 <selsta> https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/a/305294 i think this answers it
21:54:56 <MeowingCat> https://moneroaddress.org/
21:55:01 <MeowingCat> how can i get public spend key here?
21:55:08 <MeowingCat> i need to compare my derivation
21:55:10 <MeowingCat> for same seed
21:55:38 <selsta> MeowingCat: https://xmr.llcoins.net/addresstests.html
21:55:46 <MeowingCat> thank youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
22:00:02 <MeowingCat> _crypto_scalarmult_ed25519_base()
22:00:06 <MeowingCat> it is different than mine
22:00:07 <MeowingCat> damn
22:32:50 <MeowingCat> isn't private spend key scalar reduced derivation of private seed?
22:53:26 <MeowingCat> MyMonero is not doing that
22:53:53 <MeowingCat> it is doing scalar reduce to Keccak256 hash of private seed
22:56:38 <endogenic> old mymonero, you mean?
22:56:46 <endogenic> what are you referencing
22:57:09 <endogenic> i mentioned historically mymonero had 13 word seeds i migrated them away from
22:57:30 <endogenic> mymonero-core-cpp account.cpp shows how you do it in c++
22:57:38 <endogenic> i mean the account c++ it uses
22:59:27 <MeowingCat> as i see current MyMonero
22:59:43 <MeowingCat> im gonna do zero padding to private seed
23:00:08 <MeowingCat> i think it must be little endian
23:03:06 <endogenic> how are you "seeing" current mymonero. it's compiled wasm
23:06:25 <MeowingCat> oh Github source
23:11:58 <endogenic> link?