07:19:53 <dEBRUYNE> selsta: Will do
10:47:17 <willshu[m]> <kayabanerve[m]> "I'm assuming a monero-wallet-rpc..." <- Yes, outputs that belong to this wallet. This line of code exports the outputs in the form of hex string: `const outputsHex = await viewOnlyWallet.exportOutputs(true)`.
12:54:26 <Guest76> For clients, do I still need to scan the whole blockchain to see if I have received payment?
12:54:45 <Guest76> Or is there some solution to not neeeding to scan the whole blockchain
13:00:03 <moneromooo> You have to. Though you can give your secret view key to someone else to do it for you. But someone has to do it.
13:00:37 <moneromooo> Well, if you wnt to check ONE payment if you're given a txid, technically you can scan just that one.
13:01:17 <moneromooo> There's a feature that does it on typical block explorers. I forget what info you leak exactly, I think you do leak your secret view key too. Must do.
13:01:45 <moneromooo> But in the general case, your secret view key is needed to scan every output.
13:02:16 <moneromooo> Soon, that scanning will get something like 30% faster (I think) for 99% of outputs, but still need to scan it all.
13:02:59 <moneromooo> Even something like mymonero, they scan the whole chain wiht your key (which you give them). So it seems quick, but the work is still done elsewhere.
13:03:46 <moneromooo> Now, if you know you cannot possibly have received anything in some particular period of time, you can just skip scanning the blocks in that time.
13:04:07 <moneromooo> If you DID receive something, it won't be found.
13:04:39 <moneromooo> There's a system to scan just a few txes in monero-wallet-cli, not sure how to use it in practice as I didn't write it. But if you have a set of txes you know are the only things you got, that'll be lightning fast.
13:04:55 <moneromooo> But these are special cases really. General case, need to scan it all.
13:05:32 <moneromooo> Wait. This is -dev. Ask in #monero, assuming it wasn't a technical question abut writing scanning code.
13:12:53 <ofrnxmr[m]> Fwiw, gui added a "scan tx" feature 
13:13:44 <moneromooo> That's nice. I'm unsure how to tell it not to scan the rest.
13:14:03 <moneromooo> ie, you're at block 1e6. The chain is at 1.5e6. You want to scan just one tx in the that range
13:14:12 <moneromooo> Guess I should go read the source.
14:09:28 <tusko> read the docs
14:16:37 <Guest76> For mobile clients and ux it seems that this fuzzy message detection strategy would be advantageous
14:17:05 <Guest76> Not sure if previous messages got sent before this one ^
14:21:21 <moneromooo> Looks like not. Your previous line was "Or is there some solution to not neeeding..."
14:22:58 <Guest76> resending:
14:22:58 <Guest76> @moneromoo there seems to be some research in fuzzy message detection, which is why I was checking
14:22:59 <Guest76> So someone powerful will scan the blockchain for you and returns a percentage of false positives
14:23:30 <moneromooo> Ah. I believe JAMTIS will allow something like that.
14:23:47 <moneromooo> This will probably end up in monero at about the same time as Seraphis.
14:24:14 <Guest76> Is there anything that is lost in terms of privacy with Jamtis?
14:27:10 <hyc> read the monero-research-lab archives
14:27:16 <hyc> it's all been discussed heavily
14:28:41 <Guest76> okay thank you
14:44:43 <rbrunner> Guest76: Do you know this Reddit post and thread already: https://old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/v4wq1g/seraphis_new_view_key_method_is_problematic_for/
14:52:24 <Guest76> rbrunner just checked it out and the github one of the posts links to, is very helpful. Thank you very much
15:58:08 <Guest34> I want to write code on twisted ecc so tried to understand monero implementation but damm i am not getting it so can anyone here help to connect the theory formula for tecc and the code implementing it.
16:03:41 <UkoeHB> You’d be better off writing a slow version from scratch using the stuff in ch2 of ztm2
16:08:58 <Guest45> No i don't want slow one if i wanted i could have written it from there, than there would have been no need for asking.
16:14:03 <UkoeHB> Is your problem understanding the api or how the implementation works?
16:19:11 <UkoeHB> If you aren’t trying to do anything with Monero, idk why you’d be looking at the Monero internal crypto library. Libsodium is a generic library better suited to arbitrary projects.
16:19:25 <UkoeHB> And probably way better documented
16:21:28 <selsta> moneromooo: any idea what to recommend to this person? https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues/8477#issuecomment-1202042559
16:21:54 <selsta> first they had their daemon misconfigured but now not sure what it means if it fails after 30min
16:29:44 <moneromooo> I commented.
16:40:11 <selsta> ty
23:55:13 <afungible[m]1> Hi guys. I just created this report on github. I could reproduce it. Not sure if this is known, or I indeed found an issue.
23:55:13 <afungible[m]1> https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues/8480