03:50:28 <Mochi101> Any of the core team around?
05:40:17 <NorrinRadd> hyc ArticMine binaryFate 
05:40:58 <ArticMine> yes
05:45:36 <NorrinRadd> Mochi101 ^
05:45:53 <NorrinRadd> it might be about the @monero twitter account 
05:47:54 <Mochi101> it's not... it's just an idea
05:48:18 <Mochi101> ArticMine, are you familiar with the tx fee algo and stuff?
05:48:22 <hyc> I'm around, but I'm not core team
05:49:04 <Mochi101> hyc are you familiar with the same?
05:49:20 <hyc> vaguely. Articmine is the expert
05:49:22 <ArticMine> Yes I am
05:49:31 <Mochi101> Can I pm you ArticMine ?
05:50:19 <Mochi101> I don't want to talk about the idea in an open channel.
05:50:33 <Mochi101> It may not even be possible.
05:51:04 <ArticMine> You can. It is getting late here in the west coast of Canada so I will review in the morning I will stay signed on 
05:51:36 <Mochi101> oh 10:51 here... I forgot you're an old guy ArticMine 
05:51:38 <Mochi101> :P
05:51:44 <Mochi101> We can wait until tomorrow.
05:52:37 <ArticMine> Sure
14:56:14 <bit_thanos[m]> Hey, not sure if this is relevant or just a joke but someone on Twitter is claiming an attack on the network
14:56:31 <Mochi101> link?
14:56:42 * bit_thanos[m] uploaded an image: (206KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/IKJQOsWldXOsUnesdxcErUNT/Screenshot_20221119-144927_1.png >
14:57:31 <Mochi101> mmmm
14:57:54 <bit_thanos[m]> Link to profile:
14:57:54 <bit_thanos[m]> https://twitter.com/chainrx?s=20&t=ngzO5jRwT7vfid40CIoGyw
14:58:15 <Mochi101> thanks
15:05:27 <selsta> they haven't tweeted anything interesting so far and there's no attack
15:05:49 <selsta> i feel like they tweet before even trying to understand the code but let's see
15:08:22 <Mochi101> Seems like they have a crush on fluffypony 
15:09:41 <monerobull[m]> What are they talking about with chain split, you only need one honest node to get the right height 
15:10:52 <bit_thanos[m]> Thought as much, with the thick buy wall on Tradeogre they might just try and manipulate the market
15:10:53 <bit_thanos[m]> Mochi101: Isn't he sexy though? Hehe
15:12:06 <selsta> the hashtags and the short stuff in their bio makes it seem more like an attempt at market manipulation than a real attack
15:12:48 <Mochi101> my buy orders are set way lower than that :(
15:13:21 <selsta> but let's see, worst case node operators will have to add some priority nodes :D
15:14:13 <sech1> DDoSing seed nodes? That will not cause a chain split even if they're all down. The guy doesn't understand how p2p networks work.
15:16:52 <nikg83[m]> sech1: They will probably ddos all nodes, residential nodes are easy to be attacked 
15:17:40 <sech1> to attack them, first you need to connect to them and they're 99% behind NAT
15:18:06 <sech1> DDoSing ~12000 Monero nodes all at once? Good luck
15:18:25 <sech1> https://monero.fail/map
15:20:04 <nikg83[m]> sech1: 12k diff ips, plenty of them don’t have static IPs and most of them are not even online 24/7 
15:21:01 <nikg83[m]> Anyways, I don’t understand how chain split is possible; maybe you guys can dig further
15:21:14 <monerobull[m]> Security feature: weak router. Crashes, gets a new IP assigned 
15:25:35 <selsta> nikg83[m]: there'snt
15:25:47 <selsta> there's nothing to dig into further lol they haven't tweeted anything interesting
16:12:09 <Gandelf|unfoog> *takes out popcorn*
23:26:09 <mrnaif> Hi! Is it possible to sign transactions offline or with daemon rpc only? Because to broadcast them I need tx blob, but I can't use wallet rpc once again. What are the other options? I see mymonero-bridge-utils in nodejs, but not yet sure how that works
23:26:49 <endogenic> that mymonero bridge thing is not what you want
23:27:00 <endogenic> you want mymonero core cpp for one example
23:27:04 <endogenic> or core js
23:27:17 <selsta> the daemon alone can't do this
23:28:44 <mrnaif> I mean this one:... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/c75d5ac64602c91d0e7ed45c9afb56b7cecd9cdd>)
23:34:30 <endogenic> mrnaif ignore that lib lil
23:34:32 <endogenic> lol
23:34:33 <Mochi101> mrnaif, you can start your wallet with the no-relay option
23:34:48 <Mochi101> then use a tx pusher
23:35:03 <endogenic> a signed tx is formed and submitted by REST http request to a monero light wallet server
23:35:20 <Mochi101> https://moneroexplorer.org/rawtx
23:35:22 <endogenic> or other methods
23:40:03 <mrnaif> Submitting the actual transaction is not a problem once again (daemon has needed RPC)
23:40:03 <mrnaif> But I can't use wallet rpc calls to create tx blob because there may be many different wallets open at the same time
23:48:00 <endogenic> so use monero-lws
23:48:48 <endogenic> or.. wallet2?