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02:37:10 <sgp[m]> Very frustrating for us. Cake Wallet is marked as malware by Avast, Kaspersky, and Microsoft because we use the Monero lib, which has mining code
03:11:51 <DanIsnotthemanBr> Bitdefender does the same with monero gui wallet
03:12:50 <Siren[m]> it uses the same lib
06:28:46 <sech1> sgp[m] did you try "forking it and removing the mining code from it"?
11:06:50 <Guest482> if I scan the balances of an old wallet with a pruned node, is there a chance that some balances will be missing because the relevant information was in the discarded data?
11:11:52 <hyc> no
11:15:43 <hyc> pruning only removes validation stuff like signatures and range proofs. all of the txn inputs and outputs are still intact.
11:44:33 <Guest482> hyc thank you very much!
14:10:48 <leito[m]> hi guys, I'm totally ignorant on this. is there a way to have an airgap computer with a wallet and sign transactions to a online wallet? 
14:10:48 <leito[m]> something similar to what lnbits/lnpoc is doing? 
14:10:48 <leito[m]> I know they are layer2 and layer1 
14:11:23 <leito[m]>  * hi guys, I'm totally ignorant on this. is there a way to have an airgap computer with a wallet and sign transactions to a online wallet? 
14:11:23 <leito[m]> something similar to what lnbits/lnpoc is doing? 
14:11:23 <leito[m]> I know they are layer2 and layer1 
14:11:23 <leito[m]> this just cameup to my mind so I'm asking and if there are some docs on it even better
14:11:33 <leito[m]>  * hi guys, I'm totally ignorant on this. is there a way to have an airgap computer with a wallet and sign transactions to a online wallet? 
14:11:33 <leito[m]> something similar to what lnbits/lnpoc is doing? 
14:11:33 <leito[m]> I know they are layer2 and layer1 
14:11:33 <leito[m]> this just came up to my mind so I'm asking and if there are some docs on it even better
14:13:40 <leito[m]>  * hi guys, I'm totally ignorant on this. is there a way to have an airgap computer with a wallet and sign transactions to an online wallet? 
14:13:40 <leito[m]> something similar to what lnbits/lnpoc is doing? 
14:13:40 <leito[m]> I know they are layer2 and layer1 
14:13:40 <leito[m]> this just came up to my mind so I'm asking and if there are some docs on it even better
14:14:53 <xmrack[m]> leito: you can use a hardware wallet such as a ledger or trezor to sign “offline transactions” which you can transfer via USB from an airgapped computer to one with internet. You can use xmrchain.net to broadcast the transaction to the network 
14:15:22 <xmrack[m]> You can also use the monero wallet gui
14:17:19 <leito[m]> xmrack[m]: could I use a QR code? I'm imagining something like an atm
14:19:05 <leito[m]> > <@ack-j:matrix.org> leito: you can use a hardware wallet such as a ledger or trezor to sign “offline transactions” which you can transfer via USB from an airgapped computer to one with internet. You can use xmrchain.net to broadcast the transaction to the network
14:19:05 <leito[m]>  * could I use a QR code? I'm imagining something like an atm
14:19:05 <leito[m]> scanning a qr code after accepting money that kind of stuff
14:48:32 <Rucknium[m]> leito: Does this provide what you're looking for? https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/MoneroSigner.html
14:50:40 <leito[m]> Rucknium[m]: not really, go this concept on my head, that need to clear up probably I asked too soon but got exited hahahaha
14:50:47 <leito[m]> s/go/got/
15:02:25 <xmrack[m]> leito: You could always try to make the idea you have in your head. I'm sure the community would support a project surrounding hardware wallets.
15:05:25 <moneromoooo> Yes. Ask in #monero for details.
15:09:09 <sgp[m]> <sech1> "sgp did you try "forking it..." <- nope, it hasn't been a priority until now
15:11:18 <tobtoht[m]> RandomX is straightforward to patch out. CryptoNight not so much.
15:13:58 <tobtoht[m]> cn_slow_hash is used all over the place, including as a KDF for wallet file encryption. You'd lose wallet file compatibility at a minimum.
15:20:46 <sech1> cn_slow_hash is used as key derivation, so it's required to create and open wallets
15:23:14 <tobtoht[m]> you could swap it out for a different KDF, but lose compatibility with other wallet programs in the process
15:23:50 <ofrnxmr[m]> I think cake's wallet backup is already incompatible with other wallets
15:23:50 <ofrnxmr[m]> not sure about monero.com
15:26:42 <ofrnxmr[m]> (Moving from cake > cli etc, requires a seed restore because regular users cant access the wallet file created by cake.. iirc)
15:36:14 <sech1> if you change KDF, seeds become incompatible too
15:36:45 <sech1> or no
15:37:00 <sech1> seed is just the spend key encoded in words, so it should be fine
15:37:07 <tobtoht[m]> ye
18:30:11 -xmr-pr- jeffro256 opened pull request #8686: common: move boost_serialization_helper.h out and cleanup includes
18:30:11 -xmr-pr- > https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/8686