00:26:01 <hyc> have to admit it sounded like a nice idea but I couldn't be bothered to activae it on my public node
00:26:24 <hyc> and now I don't have public RPC at all because wallets ate too much of my bandwidth
07:23:18 <fluffypony> I support removal of RPC pay *in the wallet code*, let someone code up a third-party wallet library that supports it
07:23:31 <fluffypony> but no need to remove it on the node side, since the node has mining code anyway
11:06:03 <hyc> makes sense
21:33:16 <molera[m]> Hi, im almost whole day trying to understand encrypted seed in monero. I dont know why on sites like monerotech .info or xmr.llcoins when im using same seed with same passphrase i get other spend key than monero cli, gui or feather wallet. Was seed encryption alghorithm recently changed? How is it done?
21:35:30 <moneromooo> monero-wallet-cli adds the keys. This is one of the schemes llcoins.net uses.
21:35:53 <moneromooo> Add to encrypt, subtract to decrypt. IIRC llcoins.net has several schemes to choose from.
21:38:14 <moneromooo> Might be called offset, sc_add, add.
21:46:23 <molera[m]> every time i get other encrypted seed in llcoins and cli wallet with same input data
21:47:51 <moneromooo> Possibly the hashing is different.
21:48:13 <UkoeHB> molera[m]: if you have a seed, then recover the spend key with `crypto::ElectrumWords::words_to_bytes(electrum_seed, nominal_entropy, seed_language) -> entropy = cryptonote::decrypt_key(nominal_entropy, seed_password) -> sc_reduce32(entropy)`
21:48:14 <moneromooo> Monero most likely uses keccak with some magic/salt.
21:48:28 <UkoeHB> if you have a seed and seed passphrase *
21:50:00 <UkoeHB> then you get the view key with `keccak(spendkey, 32, viewkey, 32) -> sc_reduce32(viewkey)`
21:57:46 <molera[m]> Thank you
22:12:43 <MajesticBank> do / can we have way of getting balance of locked but safe funds
22:14:11 <moneromooo> No idea what this means. Rephrase.
22:15:32 <MajesticBank> when you make transfer from the wallet, change is "trusted" amount on your balance
22:16:11 <MajesticBank> while incoming transfer can't be trusted that way since it can be double spent, low fee, what else
22:16:25 <moneromooo> Are you asking "how to get the total of change that's still locked" ?
22:17:08 <MajesticBank> yep, how much of change is in locked balance
22:19:08 <moneromooo> You should be able to get that by adapting wallet2::balance_per_subaddress, IIRC (not 100% sure) "strict" means "on chain", non strict means allowing change from yourself.
22:23:49 <MajesticBank> might try that ty