00:24:32 Stack does for wow 02:13:02 polyseed for wownero? 02:13:47 Yes 02:14:43 At least that what I've heard. Just tested it and saw its only 14 words 02:14:47 So maybe no 02:19:28 It uses tevador's earlier proof of concept: https://github.com/tevador/monero-seed/tree/e8d58c7504f6b969bbe24b13973cf8e2b3fd4b18 07:22:43 I am trying to build monero-java or monero-ts for their full local wallet features to use in an android app I'm developing. I am having an incredibly difficult time being able to build them on android or find any information on how too. If anyone knows how to do this or could point to anything they thing would be helpful, I would really appreciate it. 08:36:07 That's the worst part of these libraries. You need Wallet RPC in the background for syncing your wallet, how do you gonna run it in an android device? This libraries aren't useful imo until you have full control of the device, which means you cannot produce things for other users. Also there isn't any working libraries except these ones and these are not enough powerful. I actuall 08:36:07 y build a library that is a real library but it is not production ready so I am sorry. Please tell me if you can find a way to make standalone wallet apps, because I couldn't. 08:43:20 I may have a misunderstanding but from the documentation of these libraries the full local wallet parts are effectively a wrapper for the native monero-cpp library which would allow for direct use bypassing wallet rpc, no? 08:45:27 I may have a misunderstanding but from the documentation of these libraries the full local wallet parts are effectively a wrapper for the native monero-cpp library which would allow for direct use bypassing wallet rpc, no? 08:45:27 Also is there a public repo that you are working on your library in would love to look at if you don't mind. 08:51:59 Yeah, there is a wrapper of cpp but it is still pre-compiled and wrapper, that means you are gonna have more problems (for example building it for every platform that you want to use it) than a native one. My library is: https://github.com/monumexyz/libmonero 08:55:27 Thanks for the advice. 🙂 10:05:19 detherminal: monero-serai works. 10:08:25 Is it published on crates, iirc it's latest release was deleted 10:09:16 It wasn't. It was yanked. 10:10:28 It probably won't have a new release until its fingerprinting is resolved, which is what jberman: is wrapping up. 10:11:07 It's still usable via a `git` spec 10:14:51 blob:https://imgdrop.us/84cd223c-66cb-4752-9588-9ffdbd9115db 10:24:51 It's not very hard. Townforge (the game) is a standalone wallet app using wallet2. Or, even simpler, simplewallet (though you might object it's part of the monero tree so doesn't count). 10:25:20 You can look at src/wallet/wallet_rpc_server.cpp to see what RPC map to what wallet2 calls. 10:26:48 And then just link against wallet2. It's not a lib you can put in /usr/lib64 or whatever, but you can put it in your binary's path and ship it with it. Not much difference. 10:28:14 (I'm replying about "You need Wallet RPC in the background", not about "having an incredibly difficult time being able to build them on android", for clarity) 10:28:42 Though actually both, since wallet2 builds on android AFAIK. 11:58:13 twidtwo let me know if I can help with the build. first good step is to build the monero-project submodule 14:06:15 anyone joining from three-letter-organisations here ? just wanted to say hi !!! 15:03:02 hi im from bar 15:03:09 the one of foo 15:03:13 ;) 15:36:50 Does the MRL (Monero Research Lab) count as a three-letter-organisation? 15:46:24 hum 15:46:54 if i was a 3 letter organization i would call the isps and tell them to drop all packets on 18081 15:47:03 in this context 15:47:21 what is the interest of migrating this : 15:47:44 https://github.com/slave-blocker/voider_2 15:47:58 to be instead of phones to be for miners 15:48:22 it supports up to 255 incoming and 255 outgoing connections 15:48:47 only one hop connections no transitivity 15:49:25 and then one could go to the raspi and use that too (for phones) and say : they got me here gonna go to jail now 15:49:39 as what you do in life echoes through eternity 15:49:43 its a ok 15:49:48 just curious 15:49:50 ;) 16:54:17 hmm selsta https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining/comments/190j912/monerod_constantly_killed/ 16:55:30 misses OS 16:56:00 but the github issue seems to be mining related and this one syncing 16:56:06 don't think it's related 16:57:07 Anyone knows why monerodocs is down? 18:43:42

will monero source code ever switch to entirely Rust or Go? 18:49:20 You can write node implementation in any programming language you want, monero is just a protocol 18:54:06 ideally imo we'd have multiple implementations maintained 18:54:56 I hope the rust project is able to finish but it's hard to imagine it ever really replacing the c++ implementation entirely 18:55:43

are there any problems with the c++ implementation? 18:57:22 There is a node implementation in rust or go (can't recall which, I'm leaning towards rust...) called cuprate. Not sure how complete. 18:59:25 Yep, #cuprate has an irc room now also 19:00:15 ty 22:22:04 In monerod how can i get the output indexes of the outputs in a tx? I don't understand the json in print_tx 22:35:28 unkn8wn69: IIRC, perform a cumulative sum on the key offsets of each `j` ring from `tx.json$vin[[j]]$key$key_offsets` : https://github.com/Rucknium/misc-research/blob/main/Monero-Effective-Ring-Size/xmr-ring-gathering.R#L265 22:35:54 That's R syntax. Yours will be different. Double-check your work. 22:41:13 Thank you 22:41:55 I want to learn more about decoys etc. I'm trying to analyze some outputs just for fun and learning 22:42:12 And to see how long to wait to have my inputs mixed in many tx 22:42:43 Cool if there would be some general approximation of time for x mixings of an input 22:42:52 Someone said this could be done 22:44:11

You might be interested in this decoy scanner, https://github.com/pokkst/monero-decoy-scanner 22:44:21 That's what am using rn 22:44:55 That was me in #monero-community:monero.social . 22:45:48 I looked up some random output from about a month ago did a fullscan and saw 8 usages of it as inputs. 5 of them are 10+ input tx's so probably pool payouts. Crazy to see IRL how inputs can be somewhat (not deterministically) traced one or two steps 22:45:54 After that ig it gets very blurry.. 22:46:27 Waiting for fcmp to fix all this 22:48:13 Ig sgp's new company is doing just what I did with some more heuristics and all combined into a tool. I still not understand his general motivation. Should this be a platform to show the community how monero can be somewhat broken like the mini series breaking monero. Or is this just a bait for money from the feds because there is really not many firms that do xmr tracing ig 22:48:34 Referring to moonstoneresearch ^^