08:28:57 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> Hello "Devs". I use quoatation marks because I code and am not a dev but the stuff I make ALWAYS seem to be better than the professionals and it's starting to get on my nerves.
08:28:58 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> The monero GUI is stupid, why am I required to create a new wallet? I want to create view only wallets - NOT a new wallet just for the sake of using the application. Stupid design.
08:29:00 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> Why is the thing I want to do never catered for?!
08:29:02 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> Is the CLI less annoying than this?
08:29:04 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> This is the instruction from getmonero.org: "If you have access to the existing wallet, open your wallet and go to Settings > Wallet > Create a view-only wallet". 
08:29:06 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> Firstly, what does "open your wallet" mean? I DO NOT HAVE A WALLET TO OPEN, THEY ARE ALL FREEZING COLD WALLETS YOU RETARDS. DO I OPEN A NEW WALLET? DO I HAVE TO COMPROMISE MY COLD WALLET? WHICH IS IT? IS MY VIEW WALLET THEN LINKED TO THE NEW WALLET I HAD TO GENERATE, if it is, that is unbelievably stupid design. 
08:29:08 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> The next thing your genius website says: "The view-only wallet file will be created within the same directory and using your current password." SAME DIRECTORY AS WHAT? COULD THIS BE ANY MORE STUPID? Same directory as the wallet I forced to generate to create the view only wallet? WHO MADE THIS?
08:36:34 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> The documentation says: "The view only wallet will be created with the same password as the current wallet." HOW STUPID IS THAT? Double caps: WHO THOUGHT THIS WAS ACCEPTABLE DESIGN????????
08:53:43 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> ```
08:53:44 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> > "I'm better, you are bad dev"
08:53:46 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> > proceeds to talk about UX/UI design instead of code
08:53:48 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> > do not make any research on the gui whatsoever
08:53:50 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> > do not understand english
08:53:52 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> ```
08:53:54 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Monero GUI has been designed by GBKS which have 15 years of professional UX design. while you have none.
08:53:56 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Arrogant behavior aside, monero-cli could effectively profit from better UX but that requires devs dedicated to it. There are other priorities, as for the sentence meaning, you could maybe open an issue and explain the confusion in a **friendly manner**
08:53:58 <m-relay> <s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> ```
08:54:00 <m-relay> <s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> > "I'm better, you are bad dev"
08:54:02 <m-relay> <s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> > proceeds to talk about UX/UI design instead of code
08:54:04 <m-relay> <s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> > do not make any research on the gui whatsoever
08:54:06 <m-relay> <s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> > do not understand english
08:54:08 <m-relay> <s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> ```
08:54:10 <m-relay> <s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> Monero GUI has been designed by GBKS which have 15 years of professional UX design. while you have none.
08:54:12 <m-relay> <s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> Arrogant behavior aside, monero-cli could effectively profit from better UX but that requires devs dedicated to it. There are other priorities, as for the sentence meaning, you could maybe open an issue and explain the confusion in a **friendly manner**
08:55:31 <sech1> There is indeed no option to create a view-only wallet from a private view key in the GUI. It can be done in CLI and then you can open the wallet file in GUI.
08:55:43 <sech1> At least not in a startup dialog
09:14:54 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> 1. So you see the UI and code as separate entities? YOU ARE A CLOWN.
09:14:56 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> 2. I don't need to "research" the GUI, I have it in front of me with the documentation open: You are a deflecting retard.
09:14:58 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> 3. Mentions experience as though 1. He knows what I have done. 2. Thinks coding experience trumps user experience. You are starting to get on my nerves retard.
09:15:00 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> 4. Mentions my understanding of English. With degrees in mathematics and physics, the ONLY thing that matters is understanding logic and its flow. English? I'M TALKING ABOUT THE LOGIC RETARD.
09:15:02 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> 5. How am I being arrogant in any way? I'M ON MY KNEES BEGGING YOU TO ALLOW ME TO USE MONERO IN AN EASY UNDERSTANDABLE WAY. PLEASE SIR I'M BEGGING YOU! HELP ME!
09:15:04 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> 6. You mention all your irrelevant and deflecting points and THEN proceed to basically agree with me. 
09:15:06 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> 7. So I guess I have to use the CLI then. I'm retarded, I'll admit it at least and I wanted to be spoon fed with the GUI. I'll be sure to tell the GUI devs that that GUI is retarded.
10:13:45 <m-relay> <s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> plowsof please, vanish him
10:21:54 <vthor> sech1: "There is indeed no option to create a view-only wallet from a private view key in the GUI. It can be done in CLI and then you can open the wallet file in GUI." SoonTM I will add that in a PR as part of my CCS proposal to create a view only wallet from a QR code scan.
10:32:42 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> The CLI also requires the creation of a wallet for no reason whatsoever. It's highly annoying. I don't want to create random wallets in the same way I don't spin around 3 times before using the bathroom.
10:33:48 <sech1> CLI just asks for a name of a wallet to open. If it doesn't exist, it asks whether to create it.
10:39:02 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> Then perhaps the youtube video I was watching is outdated. In the video, brand new wallet it created with seed and all: https://youtu.be/wMY_Sx3o26k?feature=shared
10:42:27 <sech1> It is the same in the video. You either enter a name of already existing wallet, or it will create a new wallet. It's kind of hard to run a wallet program without a wallet, right?
10:44:08 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> Yes, a new wallet is created with a seed phrase and everything, I don't want that. I want "View wallet" ONLY - linked to my cold wallets.
10:44:53 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> Wrong.
10:45:03 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> It's easy to run a wallet program with a wallet.
10:45:41 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> In my case, I am forced to create a wallet that I don't want.
10:46:03 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> And then link the stuff that I want to it.
10:46:29 <sech1> just learn the command line parameters
10:46:34 <sech1> --generate-from-view-key arg          Generate incoming-only wallet from view key
10:47:10 <sech1> start with this parameter, and it will ask for a name of the new view-only wallet, and will create it from the provided key
10:51:12 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> Or I just make this thing myself, have it implemented and only buy monero in 2 years when the technology fits my needs.
10:51:48 <sech1> "--generate-from-view-key arg" already does exactly what you need
10:52:52 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> can I run it without starting the cli?
10:52:57 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> if not, I'll pass.
10:53:33 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> It's actually a joke.
10:55:12 <sech1> oh I don't know, maybe try some other wallet then (Feather wallet can do it probably). Or write a coded to fix it. Or keep whining.
10:57:50 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> I'll check out feather wallet. Thanks.
11:02:32 <sech1> I gave you all possible solutions available right now. vthor is working on view wallets in gui, so I don't see what else is to discuss here
11:05:38 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> I didn't mention further discussion.
11:06:13 <vthor> sech1: "Feather wallet can do it probably", yes works, restore wallet from keys > view only
11:06:50 <m-relay> <e​dge7:matrix.org> You have to learn manners. First of all.
11:11:00 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> Pretty please with sugar lumps on top - FIX YOUR PROGRAM.
11:17:07 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> the create-view-only wallet guide on getmonero was also linked in the gui channel stormepurple ( where this conversation should continue) if you continue being an ass about this,  you will be removed from the channels you disturb
11:21:37 <sech1> "FIX YOUR PROGRAM" <- last I checked, you're not a boss here
11:22:31 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> Neither are you.
11:23:29 <sech1> But you're the only one giving out orders here
11:25:04 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> The problem has been resolved.
11:25:36 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> You go "Restore Wallet" and then you can just not enter the "Spend Key" and then a view only wallet is created.
11:31:13 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> This is the line from the "View Only Wallets" guide: "If you have access to the existing wallet, open your wallet and go to Settings > Wallet > Create a view-only wallet".
11:31:14 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> Now there is an issue here: It says "open your wallet", MY WALLET IS COLD I'M NOT OPENING IT HERE AND SO THIS INSTRUCTION DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. WHAT WALLET IS IT THAT I AM SUPPOSED TO OPEN?
11:31:16 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> The second issue is that "Restore Wallet" is able to CREATE VIEW ONLY WALLETS. This is not mentioned ANYWHERE unless a user perchance opened it thinking that it was possible.
11:32:01 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> So there is nothing wrong with the program, the guides are both wrong and lacking as pointed out above.
11:33:34 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> May God have mercy on the next soul that runs into them who is like me.
13:31:04 <m-relay> <s​hadow06:matrix.org> I gave up and decided to use my ledger lol
14:34:35 <m-relay> <s​tormepurple:matrix.org> Gave up on what?
14:39:47 <m-relay> <s​hadow06:matrix.org> The software wallets
14:46:31 <m-relay> <s​trawberry:monero.social> ledger 🤣
14:47:00 <m-relay> <s​hadow06:matrix.org> 1 click and I'm done :shrugs:
15:42:14 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> @selsta was 8619 removed from merge queue?
15:45:31 <selsta> i don't think so, why?
15:57:11 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> i dont see it showing up in merges
15:57:15 <m-relay> <r​4v3r23:monero.social> is there an ETA on merge?
15:59:18 <selsta> .merges
15:59:18 -xmr-pr- 8203 8619 9114 9215 9338 9342 9345 9346 9347
15:59:26 <selsta> it's still there
15:59:57 <selsta> depends on luigi's availability, I didn't ping him yet for merges because the are more things that can be added to the queue