00:03:36 hello，when can we use Carrot/FCMP++ on mainnet ? 00:04:33 this question hurts my feelings 00:04:53 After testnet 00:05:00 no ETA 00:05:46 The original plan was testnet on january, then a testnet was supposed tobe launch this may but a recent audit have not concluded positively on one of the component being used 00:05:59 so their is a lot of uncertainty at the moment 00:06:55 best case scenario: FCMP++ mainnet Q4/2025. But more likely Q1/2026 00:07:12 I'm so sorry 00:07:23 don't be, i was joking 00:10:13 q2/2026 00:10:29 Nioc has a bet our for july '26 00:11:11 Thank you for your reply. I do love the new view key🥳 05:27:21 is there some way to publicially prove that a certain amount of monero was burned in a transaction, without creating blackball enotes? I was thinking you could easily this with the coinbase or fee transaction, but it would require that you mine the block yourself or trust a miner. 05:28:17 monerobull @monerobull:monero.social 12:39:06 Depends on what exactly you meany by "blackball enotes", but you could send to onetime address of all 0s, then reveal the amount commitment opening. A onetime address of all 0s isn't a valid ed25519 point, so it won't be picked up as a decoy for others' ring signatures 13:05:52 I missed this. Is there a link? 13:07:19 Link to what 13:12:11 the audit mentioned, or more information about it 13:18:04 It was explained in last MRL meeting 13:18:25 I think Diego Salazar is working on wrapping up the current audit result as of now but it will continue regardless 13:18:49 but CS will continue it regardless* 13:19:33 https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/1204 13:19:37 logs 13:23:20 thank you 13:26:08 ``` 13:26:10 < brandon:cypherstack.com > write our own. Without proofs to fall back on, and without a consensus on the team, we did not endorse it. 13:26:12 < brandon:cypherstack.com > Having said that, work on divisors at CS is continuing, at least for now. Finality on our decision was due to our impression of timeline requirements at Monero. 13:26:14 < diego:cypherstack.com > also clarification that "unable to write our own" was due to lack of time, not lack of skill 13:26:16 ``` 13:26:50 > due to lack of time, not lack of skill 13:26:50 SKILL 100 13:27:21 TIME 17 14:06:19 I'm curious, how many hours do you guys dedicate to monero project dev? I guess nobody does this fulltime since it's open source. I might be wrong of course, I'm new here 14:06:52 I'm also interfacing with open source for the first time actually 14:07:10 There are multiple full-time devs 14:07:46 Ah ok, so in this case they are paid by sponsors? How does it work? 14:07:49 It's just curiosity 14:08:04 most probably anywhere from 5-60hrs per week, depending on the week 14:08:18 I know the main dev behind redis for example was hired and paid by vmware just to work on the open source project 14:08:32 the project itself is full time, i dont think ive ever seen it slow down 14:08:42 Some are paid via crowdfunding, some dont raise funds 14:08:52 wow 14:09:01 I respect this so much it's insane 14:10:49 I will never be able to dedicate that many hours, but monero intrigues me a lot and I hope I can dedicate some hours during my week from now on! I'm now on a pause from personal projects for at least 3 months. I hope they will be enough to contribute a bit!