13:37:01 <selsta> can someone review https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/10086 ? it's a small change
13:53:25 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> Done. Seems reasonable, especially with FCMP++ upcoming
14:37:42 <selsta> ty, please also review https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/10106 - i updated checkpoints
14:38:02 <selsta> and the corresponding https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/10107
14:43:24 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/10083 this too plz
15:04:34 <binaryFate> somebody asking if we can update the blockchain .raw on getmonero.org (nearly 5yr old...). I think nowadays importing the .raw is not faster than syncing from scratch. Do I remember well?
15:05:33 <DataHoarder> not #10149 selsta?
15:08:26 <selsta> DataHoarder: i plan to include it
15:08:39 <DataHoarder> I checked the checklist, I guess not updated
15:08:56 <selsta> will add it
15:09:44 <selsta> ok so one more review for 10083 and we have everything
15:10:01 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> bF, we removed reference to blockchain.raw from the website. Chatgpt is annoying
15:11:06 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> importing the raw is probably only faster if you do the "dangerous unverified import". Id argue we should remove the raw file itself from the servers
15:11:32 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> If ppl want to share dbs, they should create a torrent or something
15:17:15 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> this is a terrible idea
15:18:05 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> the highest seed will be for the first version, people will always download the oldest one or take century to download the new one with little to no seeders
15:19:25 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Its about as terrible as using a raw from 2019
15:19:38 <binaryFate> mmm I wonder where they got the idea then. Possibly chatgpt yes.
15:19:42 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> update the raw
15:19:47 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> No.
15:20:57 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> bF, likely yeah
15:23:13 <sech1> https://www.monero.how/tutorial-how-to-speed-up-initial-blockchain-sync
15:23:25 <sech1> "wget https://downloads.getmonero.org/blockchain.raw" :D
15:25:37 <sech1> https://docs.getmonero.org/interacting/monero-blockchain-import-reference/ still has the link too, but there is a disclaimer at the top
15:25:58 <DataHoarder> the AI will ignore the disclaimer
15:29:14 <binaryFate> maybe we rename the file to blockchain-very-very-slow-to-import-dont-do-this.raw
17:15:54 <m-relay> <m​ichaelten:matrix.org> has there been any discussion how to modify Monero XMR protocol to stop or prevent or disincentivize botnets?
17:19:23 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> are you the same person from github
17:19:34 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> #monero:monero.social #monero
17:20:59 <m-relay> <m​ichaelten:matrix.org> Yesssir (or maaaaam)
17:21:26 <m-relay> <m​ichaelten:matrix.org> https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues/10145
17:27:28 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> There are plenty of mitigations being investigated, some old, some new, none in production. you can research most of them on the monero-research-lab github issues
17:28:05 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> nore: the mrl is for technical discussion
17:39:10 <m-relay> <m​ichaelten:matrix.org> Good to know . Thanks.  I wonder if they don't realize that where I posted on github
17:47:20 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> dont post "whatsup guys" on mrl
17:48:15 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> mrl issues are for technical proposals, and monero issues are for issues with the software
17:49:57 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Your github issue was a hollow, general question, that fits in [#monero:monero.social](https://matrix.to/#/%23monero:monero.social) . Its not technical, not an actionable proposal, and not a bug. Github isnt for casual discussions
19:01:40 <m-relay> <m​ichaelten:matrix.org> The answers could be technical
19:02:05 <m-relay> <m​ichaelten:matrix.org> Hollow is a subjective value judgment imo
19:02:26 <m-relay> <m​ichaelten:matrix.org> It could be actionable if there is a potential solution
19:03:10 <m-relay> <m​ichaelten:matrix.org> But yes .. not an actual bug that I am aware of. Correct
19:05:02 <selsta> I'm not aware of any suggestions to mitigate disincentivize botnets apart from increasing the amount of RAM required to mine, in general if you can run it on your home computer some botnet will also be able to run it
19:07:42 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> https://github.com/monero-project/research-lab/issues/98 stuff like this @selsta
19:08:37 <selsta> couldn't they just solo mine or use p2pool in this case?
19:10:05 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> https://github.com/monero-project/research-lab/issues/98#issuecomment-3201604983
19:10:53 <selsta> .merge+ 10150 10149 10148 10147 10146 10125 #10109 #10086 10107 10106
19:10:53 <xmr-pr> Added
19:11:43 <selsta> .merges
19:11:43 -xmr-pr- 10086 10106 10107 10109 10125 10146 10147 10148 10149 10150
22:40:15 <selsta> v0.18.4.3 has been tagged