11:30:00 <selsta> tobtoht: 10212 has a merge conflict
15:01:22 <selsta> luigi1111: please tag v0.18.4.5
15:05:26 <luigi1111> Ok
15:10:15 <selsta> (and please ping me once done)
15:59:11 <m-relay> <c​3r3brum:matrix.org> Hello folks, I was interested in working on a issue that looks like it was accidentally submitted to the GUI team: https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/issues/4517 The issue is related to support for newer Trezor hardware devices that use their updated Trezor Host Protocol instead of the communication protocol used by their older devices.
16:00:34 <m-relay> <c​3r3brum:matrix.org> The trouble is with how to do it. Trezor's recommended solution is to use their software, which has an API that allows other applicaitons to interact with the key.
16:02:13 <m-relay> <c​3r3brum:matrix.org> Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, this API only has binding points for Javascript or Python, which is not too appealing since the existing Monero code base doesn't seem to be already using such things.
16:07:13 <m-relay> <c​3r3brum:matrix.org> I also found the protocol specification documentation on Trezor's github page, so we also have all the info needed to implement the new protocol in C++ to integrate with the current Monero code base better. I do have some experience writing protocol implementations. However, it's been almost 20 years since I wrote much C++ for multiple platforms (most of my professional work was i<clipped message>
16:07:14 <m-relay> <c​3r3brum:matrix.org> n C# on Windows platforms) so I'm not 100% confident in my ability to make something that's iron clad from a security and performance perspective rather than just meeting the bar of working well enough not to crash.
16:07:56 <m-relay> <c​3r3brum:matrix.org> What do folks feel like the right solution is here?
16:08:23 <m-relay> <c​3r3brum:matrix.org> The spec for the new protocol is here, if anyone is interested: https://github.com/trezor/trezor-firmware/blob/m1nd3r/thp-documentation/docs/common/thp/specification.md
17:21:48 <selsta> ph4r05 usually did all Trezor related work in the past but I'm not sure if he is still around
17:22:10 <selsta> he was contracted by Trezor in the past if I remember correctly
17:26:27 <m-relay> <r​brunner7:monero.social> "to make something that's iron clad from a security and performance perspective" I am no specialist, but I don't see substantial dangers right now here.
17:26:57 <m-relay> <r​brunner7:monero.social> Personally I would worry more about good ways how to structure a big chunk of new C++ code implementing a non-trivial protocol ...
17:28:13 <m-relay> <r​brunner7:monero.social> We also have the question coming up when and how Trezors will "learn" FCMP++
17:28:15 <m-relay> <r​brunner7:monero.social> And Carrot
22:38:38 <Guest17> What mining options exist for monero or other #anon cryptos?
22:40:30 <Cindy_> Guest17: you can..
22:40:34 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> this is dev channel
22:40:46 <Cindy_> start by waiting for my response before you LEAVE
22:41:06 <Cindy_> Guest17: you can mine with xmrig
22:41:11 <Cindy_> and p2pool
22:42:03 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> _no further questions — thank you for your attention to this matter_
22:43:20 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> nioc what is the mining irc channel that is bridged to matrix's xmrmine ?
22:43:53 <nioc> #monero-mining 
22:44:26 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ty
22:44:26 <Guest17> I need something for Android, as I own no Windows. Win11 made sure of that.
22:45:59 <Cindy_> mining on windows is garbage anyway because of Ring0 being blacklisted by MS, but mining on android is even worse if your CPU is a literal potato
22:46:03 <Cindy_> regardless this is the dev channel
22:47:10 <Guest17> I footballed it to the mining channel, but only 10 users exist there....
22:47:34 <DataHoarder> regardless. this is the wrong place
22:47:36 <Cindy_> you can move to #monero
22:47:41 <Cindy_> that has way more people
22:48:39 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> .#monero-mining has 10 people _on irc_. It is bridged to matrix which has hundreds or thousands of people
22:52:15 <Guest17> As to Ring0, correct me if I'm wrong, but access sitll existed Win8 and older....
22:54:23 <Cindy_> yes, before MS blacklisted it
22:55:05 <Cindy_> windows won't even let the kernel driver run, even if you excluded it from your AV
22:56:04 <Guest17> Wondering if Wine is a half-decent workaroun
22:56:19 <Guest17> *workaround*
22:57:45 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ... this is the development channel.
23:00:00 <Guest17> Who better to ask when it comes to technical issues? Wine is rather sensitove to code, after all.
23:00:33 <DataHoarder> this is for monero core specific development, not your own issues
23:00:54 <DataHoarder> also not a *support* channel