10:06:46 <azerx> Hi guys, just curious when the new Trezor will be supported by core wallet? any idea? 
10:08:22 <azerx> ledger stax crashes hard with monero app time to time so i have to initialize with the 24 words so i'm hoping trezor has better hw support...
10:13:39 <DataHoarder> afaik that also falls on ledger/trezor if they made changes besides device ids
10:41:31 <azerx> yes for sure 
10:41:58 <azerx> they are pretty arrogant to be honest and always refer back to projects :(
11:01:00 <m-relay> <r​brunner7:monero.social> I know from the Carrot lead dev that he is going out of its way, and then still walk the extra mile, to make it super-simple for hardware wallets to interface with Monero wallet apps post hardfork and sign FCMP++ / Carrot transactions. I think he is near the point where he can submit the descriptions of those interfaces to all interested companies. Then, those will have to lift their arses.
11:05:12 <DataHoarder> afaik the question is about supporting the new models, not fcmp/carrot
11:11:40 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> yeah. Theyre broken bcuz the companies change shit and dont tell anyone
11:22:19 <m-relay> <r​brunner7:monero.social> You mean if they are not reliable *now*, and some new models even don't run at all? Yes of course.
11:40:11 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> No, i mean they changed something once or twice recently that caused us to update monero twice to fix their changes
11:41:02 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> one of their newest models (i cant remember exact details) interfaced differently so doesnt work properly
11:42:59 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/issues/4533 < fixed in latest monero release
11:45:47 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/issues/4540 issue with newest model (unresolved)
11:46:47 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> These have nothing to do with keys. seems like upstream changing stuff w/o testing properly.
11:47:49 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> "I used BTC, ETH, AVAX, Sol and many other wallets and seen this type of reset one other time and that was when i was using Near wallet."
14:33:04 <selsta> 4540 should be fixed by updating hidapi last release but it's clearly a bug in their firmware if it totally crashes
14:33:51 <selsta> so maybe I should close this? not much else we can do on our side
14:34:21 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Worse than crash, it totally wiped their wallet 😆
14:34:54 <selsta> lol
14:35:04 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I cant say - i dont use a hww so havent any experience with problems associated
14:36:26 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Maybe ping ops to see if its still an issue. In any case, i dont see how it could be a monero problem when it only effects their latest model on some new firmware
14:56:44 <jpk68> Do I need to do anything to get 'pending review' added to #10290? Or is one approval enough?
14:56:58 <jpk68> Apologies, I'm unfamiliar :)
15:01:14 <selsta> jpk68: it's already reviewed
15:01:49 <selsta> number of approvals depends on the change, for 10290 it's enough
15:02:39 <jpk68> Alright, thanks
17:04:04 <selsta> ofrnxmr: and another one https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/issues/4564