13:47:39 <br-m> <monero.arbo:matrix.org> is docker still using bionic for builds? is that working for everyone?
14:09:38 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Worked for me, and yes, bionic
14:31:38 <scoobybejesus> the docker host doesn't even matter when you use dockrun, right?
14:35:33 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Dockrun uses am 18.04 image
14:37:00 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> (i use slightly modified dockrun, since repo vers doesnt work on deb 12)
17:07:47 <selsta> .merge+ 10506 10507 10508 10509 9899
17:07:47 <xmr-pr> Added
18:59:19 <tobtoht> monero-i686-linux-gnu-v0.18.5.0.tar.bz2 doesn't repro
18:59:41 <tobtoht> non-determinism in unbound package
18:59:59 <tobtoht> sneedle and ofrn match, scooby doesn't
19:00:11 <selsta> what about ci gitian output?
19:00:16 <tobtoht> checking
19:02:00 <selsta> i don't remember seeing unbound in updated packages
19:03:05 <tobtoht> it wasn't updated
19:03:18 <tobtoht> ci matches sneedle and ofrn
19:03:29 <tobtoht> i'll ask scooby to clear cache and rebuild
19:05:52 <br-m> <robinho13:matrix.org> Hi, a quick question regarding refactoring.
19:05:52 <br-m> <robinho13:matrix.org> The following line in wallet2.cpp uses designated initializers:
19:05:52 <br-m> <robinho13:matrix.org> src.multisig_kLRki = {.k = {}, .L = {}, .R = {}, .ki = rct::ki2rct(td.m_key_image)};[... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/pOK3wYALYldveVRJ ]
19:09:48 <selsta> If it currently compiles on all platforms then I would keep it as is, refactoring PRs are usually not accepted.
19:11:19 <tobtoht> we could work towards switching to c++20 on master
19:35:01 <tobtoht> need +1 on 10509
19:36:24 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> I approve of the changes in 10509
19:36:33 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> Not sure if it counts though :(
19:48:27 <tobtoht> jpk68: it doesn't, i'm bound to the CoC. did you try making a support ticket to get your gh account unblocked? worked for me years ago when i signed up with tor.
19:49:31 <scoobybejesus> where's this cache?  i'm happy to rebuild.  is it inside gitrun-bionic or base-bionic-amd64?  am I docker exec'ing into a shell in a container and rm'ing a directory?
19:50:32 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> tobtoht: Yes, I have contacted their support several times over the course of two months. I receive the exact same templated response every time
19:51:32 <tobtoht> jpk68: ugh..
19:51:34 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> I signed up with a legit resedential IP, verified with a real phone number, etc. The ban reason was for "abuse of GitHub actions" which I have never even used
19:52:08 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> I also tried to make a second account to get an actual support response, and it didn't do anything... plus contacting a Microsoft employee (who responded) but they couldn't do anything
19:52:21 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> I will stop ranting now :)
19:52:39 <tobtoht> scoobybejesus: one sec, it's been a while since i touched gitian
19:53:56 <tobtoht> jpk68: ok, well perhaps it's time for us to start thinking about if it makes sense to allow contributors to approve of prs via logged channels / alternative ways
19:56:03 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> tobtoht: Thanks, that would be hugely appreciated. Clearly I am annoyed about this primarily because it's personally inconvenient, but I think that not having other options besides GH is going to be... not a good idea in the future. But that's just me
19:56:15 <br-m> <321bob321> There is an easier fix
19:57:17 <br-m> <321bob321> Selfhostimg doesn't have this issue
19:58:03 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @jpk68:matrix.org: Do like the bots - just create a new acct
19:59:22 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> scoobybejesus  are you using dockrun?
19:59:33 <scoobybejesus> yep
20:00:02 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: The stupid CAPTCHA doesn't work, no matter what I try. This has apparently been a thing since 2023
20:00:07 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/177816
20:00:07 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/57317
20:00:28 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> They also block Tutanota emails
20:00:42 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> *for new signups
20:02:23 <moneromooo> Someone could revive tippero and add a module to allow a ack/nak command to github :D
20:02:43 <moneromooo> (that was an old python IRC bot)
20:03:28 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> I pray to the gods of Core that a self-hosted Forgejo instance will be considered someday ;)
20:03:36 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> Hey, we might have more GitLab disk space soon anyways...
20:06:12 <tobtoht> scoobybejesus: there should be a container called gitrun? can you delete it and rerun dockrun
20:06:34 <scoobybejesus> indeed.  maybe that's easiest.  on it
20:09:40 <br-m> <ravfx:xmr.mx> > > > monero: miniupnpc.patch
20:09:40 <br-m> <ravfx:xmr.mx> > > > patching file src/p2p/net_node.inl
20:09:40 <br-m> <ravfx:xmr.mx> > > > Hunk #1 FAILED at 2989.
20:09:40 <br-m> <ravfx:xmr.mx> > > > Hunk #2 FAILED at 3057.
20:09:41 <br-m> <ravfx:xmr.mx> [... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/7b2hw4ALZ18wR2xZ ]
20:10:13 <tobtoht> ravfx: yeah miniupnp is gone
20:10:35 <br-m> <ravfx:xmr.mx> Perfect!
20:24:13 <tobtoht> jpk68: if github continues its steady decline in reliability we might not have a choice lol
20:24:30 <tobtoht> someone would need to set up the infra for self-hosted runners and be willing and able to maintain it reliably tho
20:25:28 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> True
20:25:44 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> So far weve had a few self-hosted solutions come and die or decline faster than github
20:25:57 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> It wasn't run by Core though
20:26:24 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Example: repo.getmonero.org has one job and its offline due to spam and a full disk
20:26:34 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> Also, Forgejo actions syntax is very similar to GitHub's and can probably be converted quickly
20:26:39 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Repo.getmonero.org is managed by core
20:26:49 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Well, the server is.
20:27:35 <br-m> <vtnerd> In fairness to GH, the spammers are relentless as shown by the repo.getmonero.org issues
20:28:35 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> GH clearly doesn't care about that, considering the amount of vibecoded garbage they push
20:28:35 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> There are millions of accounts of repo, and unless you manually approve each one you'll end up with people storing unsightly shit on it
20:28:43 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> See: GH trending page
20:29:14 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Of account on repo/gitlab
20:40:07 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> They also apparently suspended sech1's CI usage for a few weeks last year
21:14:51 <Cindy> ofrnxmr: There's a reason why the big projects use a mailing list to coordinate patches
21:15:04 <Cindy> And just leave the self-hosted repository as invite-only
21:17:26 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> i agree
21:19:08 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> Is there something that can be set up, like a #monero-prs channel, for sending pastebin links
21:19:20 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> So it doesn't clutter up this one
21:32:39 <plowsof> pastebin banned me for uploading the uri of a base64 image (but the data redacted) so that term is triggering to me and we can't mention it anymore 
21:33:01 <plowsof> debians*
21:34:54 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> In the meantime I guess I'll just put them here then (??)
21:40:54 <Cindy> What's wrong with sending patches over mail?
21:41:17 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> I don't have any problem with that. But AFAIK there isn't a mailing list
21:41:22 <Cindy> IRC is designed to be ephemeral so it would be harder to keep track of
21:41:35 <Cindy> Oh uhh Matrix too
21:41:47 <Cindy> They both aren't designed for this
21:42:05 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> I know, I was just thinking, as a temporary fix, it could work
21:42:41 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> I have like 6 different PRs that I want to submit right now, and it would be annoying for me to randomly paste links here
21:43:10 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> Annoying to others, I mean
22:02:30 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Yes > <@jpk68:matrix.org> In the meantime I guess I'll just put them here then (??)
23:03:34 <br-m> <monero.arbo:matrix.org> so this error is from trying to build on a fresh ubuntu 26.04 install: Error response from daemon: client version 1.41 is too old. Minimum supported API version is 1.44, please upgrade your client to a newer version
23:05:23 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Using what method
23:05:35 <br-m> <monero.arbo:matrix.org> dockrun.sh
23:06:32 <br-m> <321bob321> Docker daemon version
23:07:13 <br-m> <monero.arbo:matrix.org> yeah seems like
23:41:45 <scoobybejesus> how weird.  different i686 hash from before and still doesn't match.  https://secpaste.dev/show/qenQT4ut
23:42:44 <br-m> <monero.arbo:matrix.org> @monero.arbo:matrix.org: same error on fresh 24.04 actually
23:47:35 <scoobybejesus> you gotta sudo vim /etc/docker/daemon.json and then {  "min-api-version": "1.41" } and then sudo systemctl restart docker
23:48:14 <scoobybejesus> we'll see if your workaround will similarly result in different i686 hashes...
23:49:29 <br-m> <monero.arbo:matrix.org> okay yeah that did the trick, we will see
23:56:22 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> common: make timespan more readable https://paste.debian.net/hidden/a2e373c4
23:58:28 <selsta> jpk68: we have a no code rewrite policy
23:58:44 <selsta> so unless it fixes a bug it won't be merged
23:58:50 <plowsof> debian wont even let me view the diff cus banned lol
23:59:03 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> Just to be clear, it's improving the readability of the output, not how the function is written
23:59:24 <selsta> will take closer look