12:39:44 <Guest123422> hello
12:40:04 <Guest123422> any news about compiling debug version for android
12:40:09 <Guest123422> malinero?
12:48:22 <selsta> Guest123422: it worked fine
12:48:26 <selsta> you have to do clean build
12:49:38 <Guest123422> one more details is that dockerfile create apk which i unzip copy monerod and run
12:49:58 <Guest123422> maybe this is wrong?
12:50:16 <Guest123422> but with version Release work without issues
12:51:19 <selsta> he said it builds fine
12:51:33 <selsta> I don't know if he tested the apk afterwards
12:51:46 <selsta> can you share the create apk code?
12:52:35 <Guest123422> https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/blob/master/Dockerfile.android
13:01:10 <selsta> don't see any reason for it
13:02:19 <Guest123422> DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release  DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug
13:02:23 <Guest123422> the only change!
13:08:09 <selsta> what do you need debug build for?
13:08:56 <Guest123422> to c why cant mine on huawei smartphone that i have
13:09:26 <Guest123422> if i mine either apk or monerod alone crash
13:10:25 <Guest123422> i read about some fixes for arm64 but still crash 
13:10:46 <selsta> then build daemon with debug
13:10:50 <selsta> and start the daemon separately
13:10:57 <selsta> without GUI involved
13:11:14 <Guest123422> im doing this
13:11:21 <Guest123422> no gui involved
13:11:31 <Guest123422> i strip daemon from apk
13:11:34 <Guest123422> extract
13:11:48 <selsta> that's not going to work if the shared libraries are inside the .apk
13:12:28 <Guest123422> why run without libraries  the release version
13:12:39 <Guest123422> for release version i do the same
13:12:39 <selsta> do you find a libdaemonizer.so inside the.apk?
13:12:51 <Guest123422> got it i search right now
13:47:39 <Guest123422> there is no libdaemonizer.so anywhere after unzippping apk
13:47:48 <Guest123422> apk has no libdaemonizer.so
13:48:44 <Guest123422> and there is not libdaemonizer.so on release version too
15:36:35 <Guest123425> hello
16:52:50 <malinero> hmm, do you know if randomx allocates >= 1MB on the stack (not the heap) ?
17:08:48 <malinero> out of curiosity, can gdb on x86 reads a binary and a core dump for another arch? 
17:09:32 <malinero> s/for/from/
17:52:24 <Guest123494> hello
17:59:18 <malinero> Hi
18:01:04 <Guest123494> smth u told about randomx
18:01:30 <Guest123494> "randomx allocates >= 1MB on the stack "
18:01:41 <Guest123494> this is about gdb or monerod
18:02:20 <malinero> https://github.com/monero-project/monero/blob/master/src/crypto/CMakeLists.txt#L108
18:04:08 <malinero> if randomx allocates more than 1MB, it won't work when used through the GUI but should work when used in standalone. If it allocates more than 4 MB, it won't work with all android builds
18:04:43 <malinero> (i think it should still work with rooted devices and arm builds)
18:05:46 <Guest123494> interesting
18:06:30 <Guest123494> how MB randomx take on laptop,pc
18:06:37 <Guest123494> around
18:07:12 <malinero> i forgot one important detail: allocates *on the stack*, not the heap
18:08:05 <malinero> so it doesn't matter what the OS says
18:08:19 <malinero> randomx code is too complex for me :)
18:08:40 <Guest123494> on pc works without issues
18:08:46 <Guest123494> solo mining works
18:09:29 <malinero> yep, it's an android specific limitation
18:10:06 <Guest123494> if we give more RAM to monerod?
18:10:44 <malinero> the pb is not how much RAM in total
18:10:59 <malinero> it's the "stack" size
18:11:18 <malinero> google "heap VS stack" if you want to know more about it
18:11:39 <Guest123494> arm registers are fewer than x86?
18:12:26 <malinero> iiuc, it's an android limitation, not arm
18:13:19 <Guest123494> i remember that  before 1year or more mining was working on smartphones
18:13:29 <Guest123494> smth changed
18:13:31 <Guest123494> dont know
18:13:42 <Guest123494> dont remember when exactly
18:13:52 <malinero> introduction of randomx ? :)
18:14:03 <Guest123494> maybe........
18:14:46 <Guest123494> https://github.com/tevador/RandomX/pull/202
18:14:54 <Guest123494> this one was not fixed
18:15:00 <Guest123494> definetly not
18:18:43 <malinero> Are you sure you have included that commit ?
18:19:13 <Guest123494> that commits are inserted on randomx code now
18:19:19 <Guest123494> but do not work
18:23:26 <malinero> they are inserted in randomx, but doesn't mean you have them locally
18:24:02 <Guest123494> i have i checked
18:25:49 <malinero> have you tried the arm build ?
18:26:59 <Guest123494> make depends target=aarch64-linux-android
18:27:00 <Guest123494> this?
18:28:55 <malinero> nope, target=aarch64-linux-gnu
18:29:37 <Guest123494> no but can this run on android?
18:29:54 <selsta> the getmonero.org android version runs on android
18:30:08 <malinero> yep
18:30:44 <Guest123494> this will make linux binary target=aarch64-linux-gnu
18:30:51 <Guest123494> how to run on android?
18:31:03 <Guest123494> maybe im wrong
18:31:07 <Guest123494> just asking
18:32:07 <selsta> start with termux
18:32:10 <selsta> I guess?
18:32:57 <malinero> https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/2702/is-it-possible-to-run-a-full-monerod-node-on-android
18:33:08 <malinero> i think you'll need gnurrot
18:33:14 <malinero> gnuroot
18:34:04 <Guest123494> i use termux for running android binary but ok i test linux aarch64 binary too
18:46:38 <Guest123436> i mine on mediatek p22t 8core and no crash
18:46:58 <Guest123436> is aarch64 android
18:47:03 <Guest123436> any suggestion?
18:53:41 <malinero> maybe it has some low level CPU instructions that your phone doesn't phone. I would open an issue in randomx repo and give details about the hardware specs
18:57:56 <Guest123436> jit??
19:05:10 <malinero> no idea (but i'd guess that jit is a high level feature that requires some specific ASM instructions to make it fast enough)
19:16:50 <sgp_> ArticMine: are you free to approve the matrix relay to this channel?
19:17:28 <selsta> he did write yes last time, or does he have to do something more?
19:18:07 <sgp_> last time no one was opped I believe
19:18:22 <sgp_> now that someone is opped I can have the bridge DM them for approval, then it will be relayed
19:19:54 * malinero doesn't understand the existence of so many channels while #monero has become a faucet channel ... 
19:20:28 <selsta> #monero was supposed to be bridged, I don't know the status of it...
19:21:07 <selsta> afaik bridging large channels with over 200 users or so require extra permission by matrix and it's stuck there
19:21:36 <malinero> ah ok
19:21:37 <sgp_> actually 100, and yeah looks like that channel isn't bridged yet either
19:24:27 <selsta> 19:52 <@ArticMine> Yes
19:24:35 <selsta> that was from a couple days ago (as OP)
19:25:09 <sgp_> He will have to say "yes" to a DM that Matrix sends him. I may have missed that message a few days ago
19:25:17 <selsta> ok
20:14:08 <malinero> out of curiosity, have "TheLounge" (https://thelounge.chat/) ever been considered as an alternative or an addition to matrix ?