00:00:58 alright 00:01:20 i have 2 last questions for you. It turns out verifying the hashes using the terminal is a lot more easier than I initially thought. 00:01:43 selsta: First question. Do I save the binaryfate.asc file as a .txt file ? 00:02:10 Second question : Is it really necessary to download the binaryfate.asc file ? what does this file do exactly ? 00:02:48 verifying the hashes is easy, verifying the signature is more complicated 00:04:06 selsta: do you need to verify the signature too? 00:04:08 it doesnt say anything about verifying the signature on getmonero.org.... 00:04:19 either way, please answer the last 2 questions i asked 00:04:40 by signature, do you mean "Verify Signing Key" 00:04:56 i see a section abotu verifying the signing key is that what you're talking about selsta 00:05:08 yes 00:05:30 and "Download and Verify Hash File" 00:05:58 binaryfate.asc is what verifies the signature correct ? selsta 00:06:15 Get Signing Key... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/3018b544280a4e6c415b994d1ae65ec9ddcb868e) 00:06:26 is that all u have to do to verify the signature 00:06:38 s/gpg_keys/gpg\_keys/, s/fingerprin/fingerprint binaryfate.asc/ 00:06:45 you have to import binaryFate.asc into GPG 00:06:56 and then use GPG to verify the signature of hashes.txt 00:08:29 yes 00:08:57 but when i save binaryfate.asc, it only saves as binaryfate.asc.txt 00:08:59 is this a problem ? 00:09:04 selsta: 00:09:31 do you have GPG installed? 00:15:42 "do you have GPG installed?" <- i havent installed it yet im planning to do it on the hard fork day but im just getting myself ready in advance so i dont stress too much when it happens 00:16:00 but is it normal that binaryfate.asc.txt only saves as a .txt file 00:16:11 ok, but like I said, all these steps are already done automatically inside the GUI 00:16:28 that's the whole point of the updater so that it's more user friendly 00:17:35 selsta: can i do it anyway if im extremely paranoid 00:18:08 is there any risk to downloading the gpg suite 00:18:28 no but I can't help you because I never downloaded it myself 00:20:42 selsta: wdym no 00:20:59 selsta: you never verified your hashes ? 00:21:03 or signature 00:21:10 i did but I did it from the terminal 00:21:22 how can i do it from the terminal? 00:21:25 is it possible on macos 00:21:35 id rather do it from the terminal than download gpg 00:21:45 yes but that requires you to install a package manager first 00:21:52 and maybe xcode 00:22:02 so that's even more complicated 00:26:19 selsta: are u sure theres no risk in downloading the gpg thing 00:26:42 my paranoia is reaching all time highs when it comes to stuff like this 00:27:08 btw u still didnt answer my question about binaryfateasc saving as a txt file 00:27:11 is it normal that it saves as a txt file 00:30:42 it's not normal 00:30:47 i don't know how you saved it 00:31:08 i don't know if there is a risk with downloading gpg suite 00:32:39 i saved it by right clicking on the page and saving it on my desktop 00:33:19 it shows as a plain text file on my mac 00:33:42 i went on https://raw.githubusercontent.com/monero-project/monero/master/utils/gpg_keys/binaryfate.asc and right clicked on the page and then clicked "save as" 00:35:25 ok, rename it to binaryfate.asc 00:36:36 i just did, but my mac is still showing it as a 'plaintext' file 00:36:36 is it okay? 00:37:00 * moneroextremist[ uploaded an image: (48KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/URBswMdqXRwenwknNvQUNtDi/Screen%20Shot%202022-04-19%20at%208.36.52%20PM.png > 00:37:09 check the screenshot selsta 00:38:30 yes should be ok 00:39:02 open Terminal, then enter 00:39:04 wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/monero-project/monero/master/utils/gpg_keys/binaryfate.asc 00:39:09 then enter 00:39:11 open . 00:39:18 then you have it downloaded correctly 00:39:45 zsh: command not found: wget 00:39:51 thats what the terminal just said 00:39:57 curl -O https://raw.githubusercontent.com/monero-project/monero/master/utils/gpg_keys/binaryfate.asc 00:39:58 try this 00:41:32 i just did it 00:41:32 where did it save 00:41:57 open . 00:42:05 opens finder and there should be binaryfate.asc 00:42:20 there. just found it 00:42:33 the binaryfate i just downloaded isnt a plain text file, its a document ! 00:42:42 so it turns out that there is a difference ! 00:42:44 ok, that's correct then 00:42:51 document is correct 00:42:52 * moneroextremist[ uploaded an image: (19KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/wLAAftltaQLhAftDItlhPiEt/Screen%20Shot%202022-04-19%20at%208.42.46%20PM.png > 00:42:58 look screenshot 00:42:59 yeah 00:43:18 so if i had used the plaintext file, the process would've failed? 00:43:36 don't know, maybe, maybe not 00:51:48 "don't know, maybe, maybe not" <- any update on seraphis? 00:52:35 ukoe works on a proof of concept implementation 00:52:43 no release date 00:53:02 selsta: if u were to guess a release date, would u say before end of year? 00:53:15 no 00:53:35 later 03:26:57 .merges 03:26:57 -xmr-pr- 3829 3869 3871 3875 3879