05:03:39 <selsta> .merges
05:03:39 -xmr-pr- 3944 3946 3947 3949 3954 3955 3957 3958 3959
05:03:44 <selsta> if you have time :D
09:24:29 <moneroextremist[> No one answered my question lol :(
09:35:42 <moneromooo> Looking at the backlog, is your question "can Eve tell I'm a repeat customer" basically ?
09:36:39 <moneromooo> If so, if you repeatedly include in your rings to Eve the change Eve sent you back, then she cannot know for sure, but it's pretty good circumstancial evidence.
09:36:54 <moneromooo> Especially if the change is old.
09:37:53 <moneromooo> If the second customer were a random other person, you'd expect the rings to be composed of outputs taken on the chain with the appropriate gamma distribution.
09:38:22 <moneromooo> So the chances that an output Eve sent you are not huge, but quite possible, especially if the change output is new.
09:39:16 <moneromooo> If you do this repeatedly, the probabiliyt of it being just chance decreases.
09:40:27 <moneromooo> For this reason, the wallet should try to avoid sending back change from another send to the same address. It does not do this currently, and I never got around to it.
09:40:50 <moneromooo> Does this answer your question ?
09:43:30 <moneromooo> I will try to see if I can do something. It's been on my list for way too long.
15:47:28 <moneroextremist[> <moneromooo> "Does this answer your question ?" <- yes thank you
15:47:40 <moneroextremist[> selsta: Any chance you ever introduce churning to the Monero GUI, just like they do in Feather Wallet. Ty.
16:15:52 <moneromooo> It isn't clear churning is good. In some cases, it is actually worse than nothing AFAIK. So since it also spams the chain, it's not sure we actually want it.
16:16:20 <moneromooo> But I've worked on preventing sending change back to the same recipient, I'll PR that soon.
16:16:49 <moneromooo> Only a single level, it could do more but it gets more complicated, so it can be improved later.
16:26:52 <moneromooo> 8424
22:43:25 <luigi1111w> soon