03:31:17 <moneroextremist[> hey selsta quick question for you again
03:32:34 <moneroextremist[> As someone who holds xmr on the GUI with no hardware wallet, I have to be extremely careful of what I download on my Mac. When trying to download LibreWolf it says macOS can't verify that LibreWolf is free from malware. Do you use LibreWolf ? Would you recommend it ?
03:32:44 <moneroextremist[> s/xmr/Monero/
03:33:04 <moneroextremist[>  * As someone who holds XMR on the Monero GUI without a hardware wallet, I have to be extremely careful of what I download on my Mac. When trying to download LibreWolf it says macOS can't verify that LibreWolf is free from malware. Do you use LibreWolf ? Would you recommend it ?
03:33:19 <moneroextremist[>  * As someone who holds XMR on the Monero GUI without a hardware wallet, I have to be extremely careful of what I download on my Mac. When trying to install on my computer LibreWolf it says macOS can't verify that LibreWolf is free from malware. Do you use LibreWolf ? Would you recommend it ?
03:33:27 <moneroextremist[>  * As someone who holds XMR on the Monero GUI without a hardware wallet, I have to be extremely careful of what I download on my Mac. When trying to install LibreWolf on my computer it says macOS can't verify that LibreWolf is free from malware. Do you use LibreWolf ? Would you recommend it ?
03:34:41 <moneroextremist[>  * As someone who holds XMR on the Monero GUI without a hardware wallet, I have to be extremely careful of what I download on my Mac. One mistake, and I could lose everything I own. When trying to install LibreWolf on my computer it says macOS can't verify that LibreWolf is free from malware. Do you use LibreWolf ? Would you recommend it ?
06:39:35 <moneroextremist[>  * As someone who holds XMR on the Monero GUI without a hardware wallet, I have to be extremely careful of what I download on my Mac. One mistake, and I could lose everything I own. When trying to install LibreWolf on my computer it says macOS can't verify that LibreWolf is free from malware. I ended up installing it anyway, and quickly deleted it after. It was a .dmg file. How can I check if my Monero GUI keys are safe from any
06:39:35 <moneroextremist[> hack? Is there anything I can verify on my mac to check that LibreWolf wasnt a virus
06:40:13 <moneroextremist[> Same question applies to you luigi1111w , whoever answers first
06:40:39 <moneroextremist[> Same question applies to you luigi1111w , whoever answers first  thx
06:41:21 <moneroextremist[>  * As someone who holds XMR on the Monero GUI without a hardware wallet, I have to be extremely careful of what I download on my Mac. One mistake, and I could lose everything I own. When trying to install LibreWolf on my computer it says macOS can't verify that LibreWolf is free from malware. I ended up installing it anyway, and quickly deleted it after. It was a .dmg file. How can I check if my Monero GUI keys are safe from any
06:41:21 <moneroextremist[> malware? Is there anything I can verify on my mac to check that LibreWolf wasnt a virus
06:41:33 <moneroextremist[>  * As someone who holds XMR on the Monero GUI without a hardware wallet, I have to be extremely careful of what I download on my Mac. One mistake, and I could lose everything I own. When trying to install LibreWolf on my computer it says macOS can't verify that LibreWolf is free from malware. I ended up installing it anyway, and quickly deleted it after. It was a .dmg file. How can I check if my Monero GUI keys are safe from any
06:41:33 <moneroextremist[> malware? Is there anything I can verify on my mac to check that LibreWolf wasn't malware ? please get back to me asap
06:45:13 <binarybaron[m]> <moneroextremist[> "As someone who holds xmr on..." <- Not possible. If you want to be safe, move your coins to a new wallet
07:01:57 <moneroextremist[> <binarybaron[m]> "Not possible. If you want to..." <- binarybaron: Wym not possible ? Surely there's a way to make sure everything on my mac is fine. Either way, waiting on selsta to answer because I'm getting extremely paranoid all of a sudden
07:04:02 <moneroextremist[> If a RAT or a keylogger that's looking for keys was running on my mac, surely I would be able to see it on the activity monitor ?
07:16:58 <moneroextremist[> I guess my question to selsta is, should I trust LibreWolf browser ? Like is it a trustworthy browser ? I'm just extremely paranoid these days so I'm asking you. luigi1111w please weigh in too.
07:17:16 <moneroextremist[> * these days that a program will try to steal my Monero GUI keys, so I'm
08:57:53 <plowsof> "One mistake, and I could lose everything I own." buy a hardware wallet, you'll sleep better 
08:58:50 <plowsof> or use 'tails + persistant storage' method 
13:52:35 <dartian[m]> <moneroextremist[> "I guess my question to selsta is..." <- one layer of defense is to run monero gui in a docker container
14:01:45 <xmr-ack[m]> <moneroextremist[> "I guess my question to selsta is..." <- Or keep it in a veracrypt container 
14:22:13 <moneroextremist[> <xmr-ack[m]> "Or keep it in a veracrypt..." <- God damn, this is actually pretty smart
14:22:27 <moneroextremist[> Either way, still waiting on a response from selsta  on this.
15:58:39 <selsta> Most open source software says "can't be verified" on macOS
15:58:48 <selsta> Apple wants you to pay for a dev certificate
15:59:38 <selsta> I don't know what LibreWolf is, but if it's well known open source software you will likely be on the safe side, just don't download programs from shady websites.
15:59:51 <selsta> Don't install browser plugins.
16:02:30 <moneroextremist[> selsta: Yeah it's open source. Anyway i can check on macOS that everything is fine though ? What's the worst thing that could happen by installing a malicious .dmg file ? Could they keylog the password I type on the Monero GUI and then download my keys and withdraw funds?
16:03:06 <moneroextremist[> If I had downloaded a keylogger capable of stealing the GUI keys would it be visible on activity monitor
16:04:50 <selsta> No, if you open a malicious program they could do a lot of things, don't be sure that you would see a keylogger in your activity monitor.
16:49:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> Your use case doesnt add up.
16:49:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> You need to be extremely careful but use a bunch of proprietary software on your Mac and install binaries that you dont know anything about. Asking "is librewolf safe" after running the binary. 
16:49:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> Doesn't add up - like.. do you also use stock android / ios and think they are secure? 
16:52:11 <ofrnxmr[m]> If you trust firefox.. librewolf is just a privacy enhancing version of Firefox, similar to mull or tor browser.
16:52:12 <ofrnxmr[m]> Plenty of reviews and comparisons online.. but if youre talking about "need" security, why would you even run this wallet on the same device that you install unknown apps on 🤒
17:46:32 <luigi1112> .merges
17:46:32 -xmr-pr- 3944 3946 3947 3949 3954 3955 3957 3958 3959
18:06:26 <sech1> luigi1112 ahhh bad timing :D https://github.com/SChernykh/p2pool/releases/tag/v2.2.1
18:06:33 <sech1> I guess I'll create a new PR tomorrow
18:07:23 <luigi1112> hehe