03:31:17 hey selsta quick question for you again 03:32:34 As someone who holds xmr on the GUI with no hardware wallet, I have to be extremely careful of what I download on my Mac. When trying to download LibreWolf it says macOS can't verify that LibreWolf is free from malware. Do you use LibreWolf ? Would you recommend it ? 03:32:44 s/xmr/Monero/ 03:33:04 * As someone who holds XMR on the Monero GUI without a hardware wallet, I have to be extremely careful of what I download on my Mac. When trying to download LibreWolf it says macOS can't verify that LibreWolf is free from malware. Do you use LibreWolf ? Would you recommend it ? 03:33:19 * As someone who holds XMR on the Monero GUI without a hardware wallet, I have to be extremely careful of what I download on my Mac. When trying to install on my computer LibreWolf it says macOS can't verify that LibreWolf is free from malware. Do you use LibreWolf ? Would you recommend it ? 03:33:27 * As someone who holds XMR on the Monero GUI without a hardware wallet, I have to be extremely careful of what I download on my Mac. When trying to install LibreWolf on my computer it says macOS can't verify that LibreWolf is free from malware. Do you use LibreWolf ? Would you recommend it ? 03:34:41 * As someone who holds XMR on the Monero GUI without a hardware wallet, I have to be extremely careful of what I download on my Mac. One mistake, and I could lose everything I own. When trying to install LibreWolf on my computer it says macOS can't verify that LibreWolf is free from malware. Do you use LibreWolf ? Would you recommend it ? 06:39:35 * As someone who holds XMR on the Monero GUI without a hardware wallet, I have to be extremely careful of what I download on my Mac. One mistake, and I could lose everything I own. When trying to install LibreWolf on my computer it says macOS can't verify that LibreWolf is free from malware. I ended up installing it anyway, and quickly deleted it after. It was a .dmg file. How can I check if my Monero GUI keys are safe from any 06:39:35 hack? Is there anything I can verify on my mac to check that LibreWolf wasnt a virus 06:40:13 Same question applies to you luigi1111w , whoever answers first 06:40:39 Same question applies to you luigi1111w , whoever answers first thx 06:41:21 * As someone who holds XMR on the Monero GUI without a hardware wallet, I have to be extremely careful of what I download on my Mac. One mistake, and I could lose everything I own. When trying to install LibreWolf on my computer it says macOS can't verify that LibreWolf is free from malware. I ended up installing it anyway, and quickly deleted it after. It was a .dmg file. How can I check if my Monero GUI keys are safe from any 06:41:21 malware? Is there anything I can verify on my mac to check that LibreWolf wasnt a virus 06:41:33 * As someone who holds XMR on the Monero GUI without a hardware wallet, I have to be extremely careful of what I download on my Mac. One mistake, and I could lose everything I own. When trying to install LibreWolf on my computer it says macOS can't verify that LibreWolf is free from malware. I ended up installing it anyway, and quickly deleted it after. It was a .dmg file. How can I check if my Monero GUI keys are safe from any 06:41:33 malware? Is there anything I can verify on my mac to check that LibreWolf wasn't malware ? please get back to me asap 06:45:13 "As someone who holds xmr on..." <- Not possible. If you want to be safe, move your coins to a new wallet 07:01:57 "Not possible. If you want to..." <- binarybaron: Wym not possible ? Surely there's a way to make sure everything on my mac is fine. Either way, waiting on selsta to answer because I'm getting extremely paranoid all of a sudden 07:04:02 If a RAT or a keylogger that's looking for keys was running on my mac, surely I would be able to see it on the activity monitor ? 07:16:58 I guess my question to selsta is, should I trust LibreWolf browser ? Like is it a trustworthy browser ? I'm just extremely paranoid these days so I'm asking you. luigi1111w please weigh in too. 07:17:16 * these days that a program will try to steal my Monero GUI keys, so I'm 08:57:53 "One mistake, and I could lose everything I own." buy a hardware wallet, you'll sleep better 08:58:50 or use 'tails + persistant storage' method 13:52:35 "I guess my question to selsta is..." <- one layer of defense is to run monero gui in a docker container 14:01:45 "I guess my question to selsta is..." <- Or keep it in a veracrypt container 14:22:13 "Or keep it in a veracrypt..." <- God damn, this is actually pretty smart 14:22:27 Either way, still waiting on a response from selsta on this. 15:58:39 Most open source software says "can't be verified" on macOS 15:58:48 Apple wants you to pay for a dev certificate 15:59:38 I don't know what LibreWolf is, but if it's well known open source software you will likely be on the safe side, just don't download programs from shady websites. 15:59:51 Don't install browser plugins. 16:02:30 selsta: Yeah it's open source. Anyway i can check on macOS that everything is fine though ? What's the worst thing that could happen by installing a malicious .dmg file ? Could they keylog the password I type on the Monero GUI and then download my keys and withdraw funds? 16:03:06 If I had downloaded a keylogger capable of stealing the GUI keys would it be visible on activity monitor 16:04:50 No, if you open a malicious program they could do a lot of things, don't be sure that you would see a keylogger in your activity monitor. 16:49:40 Your use case doesnt add up. 16:49:40 You need to be extremely careful but use a bunch of proprietary software on your Mac and install binaries that you dont know anything about. Asking "is librewolf safe" after running the binary. 16:49:40 Doesn't add up - like.. do you also use stock android / ios and think they are secure? 16:52:11 If you trust firefox.. librewolf is just a privacy enhancing version of Firefox, similar to mull or tor browser. 16:52:12 Plenty of reviews and comparisons online.. but if youre talking about "need" security, why would you even run this wallet on the same device that you install unknown apps on 🤒 17:46:32 .merges 17:46:32 -xmr-pr- 3944 3946 3947 3949 3954 3955 3957 3958 3959 18:06:26 luigi1112 ahhh bad timing :D https://github.com/SChernykh/p2pool/releases/tag/v2.2.1 18:06:33 I guess I'll create a new PR tomorrow 18:07:23 hehe