00:01:28 <ForeverNoob[m]> Nope, same error.
00:01:49 <ForeverNoob[m]> Ok, so maybe a different port (this one worked previously though)
00:02:53 <ForeverNoob[m]> Nope.
00:07:55 <ForeverNoob[m]> Welp, gotta get some sleep. I wish this could have been a quick "open, pay and close" thing but alas...
00:07:56 <ForeverNoob[m]> See ya all tomorrow :)
09:02:01 <ForeverNoob[m]> So what's the consensus here? Does Ledger generally suck and is Trezor recommended instead?
09:14:53 <plowsof11> we think its user error probably 
09:15:23 <plowsof11> can your ledger  connect to ledger live? ForeverNoob 
09:16:16 <ForeverNoob[m]> Yes. I am connecting the same way I had for the previous times, but the last time I opened Monero-GUI was a couple of months ago.
09:17:38 <plowsof11> what OS are we using? ubuntu?
09:18:53 <ForeverNoob[m]> Yes, Ubuntu 18.04
09:19:47 <ForeverNoob[m]> ForeverNoob[m]: These are the steps I do:
09:19:47 <ForeverNoob[m]> 1. Connect and unlock Ledger Nano
09:19:47 <ForeverNoob[m]> 2. Open Monero-GUI
09:19:47 <ForeverNoob[m]> 3. Enter password for my wallet.
09:20:09 <ForeverNoob[m]> Normally it opens, but now it says that device is not found 🤷
09:20:32 <plowsof11> plugging my ledger in...
09:22:04 <plowsof11> in the monero ledger app, with the address displaying click the right button twice to go to About - enter - go to bottom -  what app version?
09:24:47 <plowsof> 1.8.0 correct?
09:26:05 <ForeverNoob[m]> App 1.8.0 yeah
09:26:24 <ForeverNoob[m]> Spec 1.0
09:26:54 <plowsof> ok good, and ledger live is definitely closed (but youve confirmed that you can actually connect to it today?)
09:29:08 <ForeverNoob[m]> Yeah, I opened up Ledger Live again but it's an AppImage so I can close it completely again.
09:29:42 <plowsof> and youve clicked on my ledger in ledger live and its prompted you t allow it etc?
09:31:07 <ForeverNoob[m]> Yep, allowed it and there I can confirm it says v1.8.0 on the Monero app.
09:31:33 <plowsof> ok good , im closing ledger live appimage now
09:31:33 <ForeverNoob[m]> Also says that firmware is up to date (v2.1.0)
09:32:12 <plowsof> my ledger is unlocked, im going to open up the monero app, before trying to start monero gui
09:33:34 <plowsof> this time i didnt see a device not connected error , but you see it still?
09:33:37 <ForeverNoob[m]> Wait
09:34:08 <plowsof> so i had the address displaying on the ledger before opening the monero-gui
09:36:41 <ForeverNoob[m]> plowsof: Right, that did it.
09:36:59 <plowsof> you must learn this ritual 
09:37:47 <ForeverNoob[m]> I'm too poor to be using it so frequently that I make this into my muscle memory :(
09:37:58 <ForeverNoob[m]> But... I can document it for future reference.
09:38:26 <plowsof> it can feel like pushing a square peg into a round hole sometimes, but with a big enough hammer - the monero-gui will detect the ledger 
09:40:10 <ForeverNoob[m]> Ah yeah I know what you mean, I'm using Linux on the desktop so I'm used to the frustration :p
09:41:26 <plowsof> good that its fixed, i will try to reproduce this annoying situation ;_; have a nice day monero enjoyer 
09:42:30 <ForeverNoob[m]> Thanks, in my case it was pretty simple (so simple in fact that it's easily overlooked :p) - I had to make sure that after unlocking Ledger Nano, I had to also open the Monero app.
09:43:34 <ForeverNoob[m]> Perhaps adding simple troubleshooting steps would alleviate this issue: "Device not found - Are you sure you've opened the Monero app on your Ledger device?"
09:43:39 <plowsof> start gui - at password prompt for hardware wallet - connect and unlock ledger - press ok - error device not connected - press ok again - it works <- will see if this happens 100% of the time
09:44:34 <ForeverNoob[m]> Hmm, I'll have to try that, but usually I have to connect and unlock my Ledger Nano before opening up the Monero GUI.
12:45:11 -xmr-pr- ZbigniewB opened issue #4096: Two minor issues
12:45:11 -xmr-pr- > https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/issues/4096
20:19:20 <ForeverNoob[m]> Why doesn't Monero GUI want to open symlinks?
20:23:57 <ForeverNoob[m]> As in, symlinked wallet.keys and such.
20:32:37 <ForeverNoob[m]> Also, annotated transaction history is stored in ~/Monero/wallets/my_wallet/my_wallet is that correct?