00:32:41 <selsta> 21:32 <ForeverNoob[m]> Also, annotated transaction history is stored in ~/Monero/wallets/my_wallet/my_wallet is that correct? <-- yes
00:33:03 <selsta> what error message do you get when opening a symlinked wallet?
03:23:45 <plowsof11> symlink'd wallets work fine on ubuntu - im assuming ForeverNoob may have only symlink'd the keys file and not the cache file e.g. my_wallet.keys and my_wallet 
09:31:10 <ForeverNoob[m]> selsta && plowsof : I used to get this error: `E Error opening wallet with password:  internal error: "/run/user/1000/doc/<some_alphanumeric_value>/wallet.keys" is opened by another wallet program` - But now that doesn't happen for some reason (maybe because I've manually symlinked them?)... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/7828b83f55ff05c70f2d1db9c9e704da8c361eed>)
11:29:39 <plowsof11> i renamed the Monero folder to Monero_sym and then ln -s ./Monero_sym ./Monero and everything works (creating / opening wallets)
11:31:33 <plowsof11> ForeverNoob best of luck with homeshicks docs 🫡
11:45:53 <ForeverNoob[m]> <plowsof11> "i renamed the Monero folder to..." <- So when you open the wallet, do the symlinked files then turn into normal files afterwards?
11:49:38 <plowsof11> i linked the Monero folder, not individual files. it behaves like 'normal', probably a setup issue with homeshick 
11:59:47 <ForeverNoob[m]> Ah yeah, I know for a fact that homeshick tracks individual files but not directories. So that probably means that Monero GUI does in fact have issues with symlinked files themselves.
12:00:30 <ForeverNoob[m]> Would symlinking ~/.bitmonero/ be considered safe though?
12:01:35 <plowsof11> b-but i tested individual symlinked  files (cache and key) earlier :( 
12:03:40 <ForeverNoob[m]> 🤔
12:04:03 <ForeverNoob[m]> And individual symlinked files were kept as symlinks after successfully opening them in Monero GUI?
12:12:27 <plowsof11> ahh yes ForeverNoob, the symlink files are overwritten with the actual file
12:13:09 <plowsof11> not the case for symlinking a folder 
12:14:52 <ForeverNoob[m]> Cool, thanks for confirming. Though it is kinda weird, right? I wonder if it's a security thing or not.
16:10:30 <ForeverNoob[m]> Welp, the adventures don't stop there I guess. I thought I was finally approaching the point where I could actually send some XMR, but apparently the address on my Ledger Nano is different than on the Monero GUI. If I still send it, it says that I'm attempting to double-spend 🤦
16:12:08 <ForeverNoob[m]> `Couldn't send the money: transaction <alphanumeric_value> was rejected by daemon with status: <error>. Reason: double spend, invalid input`
16:21:02 <plowsof11> if you're sending to an integrated address - the ledger will show the base address - you can confirm what you're seeing here https://monerotech.info/Home/Address . double spend error sounds like your wallet is missing some transactions (spending coins that are already spent) - need to "sync from 0" or a sane date 
16:25:18 <ForeverNoob[m]> Ok, seems like base address matches, so that's good I guess.
16:25:54 <ForeverNoob[m]> > need to "sync from 0" or a sane date 
16:25:54 <ForeverNoob[m]>  
16:25:54 <ForeverNoob[m]> Oh no that's going to take forever :(
16:25:54 <ForeverNoob[m]> I know the first tx of that wallet. Would syncing from that date be sufficient?
16:26:49 <plowsof11> yes , better than 0. are you using a remote node or?
16:27:53 <ForeverNoob[m]> Yeah definitely remote node, my free space is like 25GB lol
16:28:27 <ForeverNoob[m]> Seems like it's this issue: https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/issues/3708 - Which links to an issue which was created almost 2.5 years ago :(
16:29:38 <ForeverNoob[m]> One is saying that the issue is on the Ledger firmware side, the other saying that it's on the Monero client side 🤣
16:35:38 <ForeverNoob[m]> So that means restoring my wallet from certain date? Or do I have to rescan wallet balance?
16:37:09 <plowsof11> "restore from 0" (or the height of your first transaction) if you trust it 
16:39:46 <ForeverNoob[m]> Ah found it: https://github.com/monero-ecosystem/monero-GUI-guide/blob/v1.9/monero-GUI-guide.md#wallet
16:41:42 <ForeverNoob[m]> First tx was more than 6 months ago 😭
17:13:29 <ForeverNoob[m]> Hmm, that went faster than I thought. But my descriptions of my tx's are gone. How do I restore those? I couldn't find anything in that guide and I tried searching on DDG as well.
17:28:13 <ForeverNoob[m]> At this point maybe it's just better to keep a journal with labeled transactions separately because this is like the 3rd time it happened.
17:30:11 -xmr-pr- Toekneetwo opened issue #4097: Trouble synchronizing wallet?
17:30:11 -xmr-pr- > https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/issues/4097
17:43:50 <ForeverNoob[m]> > [The GUI will subsequently be able to read the original wallet cache and thus the restore will be complete.](https://monero.stackexchange.com/a/1339)
17:43:50 <ForeverNoob[m]> Apparently not 🤷
17:44:17 <ForeverNoob[m]> s/1339/13393/
19:32:50 <selsta> ForeverNoob[m]: description are stored in the wallet cache
19:33:19 <selsta> if you do a rescan it will wipe the wallet cache
19:33:30 <selsta> best to just make a backup of it
19:33:57 <selsta> also regarding the ledger wrong address issue, it's something ledger has to fix in their app or firmware
19:34:44 <selsta> we can't change the displayed address otherwise this would be a huge security issue
19:35:50 <ForeverNoob[m]> Ah, I think I did a rescan before backing up the wallet cache.
19:36:16 <ForeverNoob[m]> I'm getting the feeling that using a Trezor with Monero GUI results in much less headaches.