14:49:13 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> I have a question about download Monero Gui for Linux :
14:49:14 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> Is there an AppImage package for this app ?
14:51:30 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> I have a question about download Monero Gui for Linux :
14:51:32 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> Is there an AppImage package for this app ? 
14:51:34 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> I ask about it as this is the easiest way for me the new Linux beginner to download any app .
14:51:36 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> I do not know yet well how to download files in different way .
14:52:13 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> > I do not know yet well how to download files in different way .
14:52:14 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> idk the answer to the first question but may i ask what distro youre using?
14:52:57 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> Like the green M for mint the orange icon for ubuntu etc
14:53:26 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> Like the green logo with a M character for mint the orange circular icon for ubuntu etc
14:54:02 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> I have Ubuntu .
14:54:53 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> I have a question about download Monero Gui for Linux :
14:54:54 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> Is there an AppImage package for this app ? 
14:54:56 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> I ask about it as this is the easiest way for me the new Linux user to download any app .
14:54:58 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> I do not know yet well how to download files in different way .
14:55:21 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> 1 sec
14:56:26 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> I have a question about download Monero Gui for Linux :
14:56:28 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> Is there an AppImage package for this app ? 
14:56:30 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> I ask about it as this is the easiest way for me a new Linux user to download any app .
14:56:32 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> I do not know yet well how to download files in different way .
14:57:13 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> Well I don't see an appimage or a snap in the repo listed (might be one out there) but there is a flatpak
14:57:34 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> I have a question about download Monero Gui for Linux :
14:57:36 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> Is there an AppImage package for this app ? 
14:57:38 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> I ask about it as this is the easiest way for me a new Linux user to download any app .
14:57:40 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> I do not know yet well how to download app files in different way .
14:57:42 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> Perhaps theres a deb as well?
14:58:24 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> I could try downloading it myself but i need a minute
14:59:09 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> Where is the best web page to see all available packages ? Is it a GitHub ?
14:59:32 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> Saw a list here
14:59:32 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui#installing-the-monero-gui-from-a-package
14:59:34 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> Though its not a lot of packages
14:59:55 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> and definetly not all of them cuz im pretty sure theres a gentoo one
14:59:59 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> and definetly not all of them cuz im pretty sure theres a gentoo one i used
15:01:59 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> Ok thank you . I think I will need to show that  to my friend who helps me to learn Linux to find out how I can download that if there is no AppImage.
15:04:18 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> if you have a terminal you can try
15:04:20 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> `sudo apt install flatpak`
15:05:26 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> `flatpak remote-add --if-not-exists flathub https://dl.flathub.org/repo/flathub.flatpakrepo`
15:06:23 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> `flatpak install org.getmonero.Monero`
15:06:54 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> i dont remember the gui version sadly
15:08:52 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> You need to be aware I  do not know well yet what all these commends mean . ... So first I need to place first line of the commend to tell the system what ?
15:08:53 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> Just be careful with sudo its dangerous if you dont know what youre doing
15:09:26 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> apt is a package manager for ubuntu and many other
15:09:43 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> That is my point . I think the safest way is to be directed by my friend .He knows all of it .
15:10:43 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> so the first command is
15:10:44 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> execute this as super user (super user may delete the system if he wants thats how powerful he is)
15:10:46 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> Use the apt package manager
15:10:48 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> tell apt to install something
15:10:50 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> tell that something to be flatpak
15:10:53 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> That is my point . Thank you for reminding me about safety which is my main priority . I think the safest way is to be directed by my friend .He knows all of it .
15:12:36 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> I copy what you said to my Linux notes then I analize what you said as this is still not very clear for myself.
15:12:40 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> Second is
15:12:42 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> use the flatpak manager you just installed
15:12:44 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> tell it to add a repository (a place it can look for packages to install on the internet)
15:12:46 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> only do this if you havent already got this repository active
15:12:48 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> name the repository flathub on your local device for easy access
15:12:50 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> internet link of the repositor
15:12:52 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> Second is
15:12:54 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> use the flatpak manager you just installed
15:12:56 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> tell it to add a repository (a place it can look for packages to install on the internet)
15:12:58 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> only do this if you havent already got this repository active
15:13:00 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> name the repository flathub on your local device for easy access
15:13:02 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> internet link of the repository
15:13:11 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> I copy what you said to my Linux notes then I analize what you said as this is still not very clear for myself.
15:13:12 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> I mean the commends and the meaning of it.
15:14:03 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> Third is
15:14:04 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> use the flatpak manager again
15:14:06 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> tell it to install a program
15:14:08 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> the name of the package you want to install. (on flathub theyre named like mentioned org.getmonero.Monero which is a little weird but it works ig)
15:17:43 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> Hope that wasnt too complicated. Feel free to ask if you have any questions
15:21:57 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> Third is
15:21:58 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> use the flatpak manager again
15:22:00 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> tell it "install" which makes it install a program
15:22:02 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> the name of the package you want to install. (on flathub theyre named like mentioned org.getmonero.Monero which is a little weird but it works ig)
15:22:06 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> Thanks a lot for clarifying that. I am not sure if I will be able to find out how to do that but I will try . I have done some flatpack installation some time ago and then switched to AppImages as it was so easy to install via Gear Lever app. A bit like in Mac Os which I have had before. ... but I already know the AppImage is not available for everything so I need to start to lear<clipped message>
15:22:08 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> n how to download app different ways as well .
15:23:06 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> Thanks a lot for clarifying that. I am not sure if I will be able to find out how to do that but I will try . I have done some flatpack installation some time ago and then switched to AppImages as it was so easy to install via Gear Lever app. A bit like in Mac Os which I have had before. ... but I already know the AppImage is not available for everything so I need to start to lear<clipped message>
15:23:08 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> n how to download apps different way as well .
15:23:43 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> Yeah all the options Linux support has the drawback of developers needing to support them so it can be overwhelming or tiring.
15:24:40 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> Thanks a lot for clarifying that. I am not sure if I will be able to find out how to do that but I will try . I have done some flatpack installation some time ago with my friend guidance but then I switched to AppImages downloads as it was so easy to install via Gear Lever app. A bit like in Mac Os which I have had before. ... but I already know the AppImage is not available for e<clipped message>
15:24:42 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> verything so I need to start to learn how to download apps different way as well .
15:24:57 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> The appimages and flatpaks and snaps are supposed to work accross multiple linux distros at least
15:25:44 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> apt and its .deb file is distro dependent but i personally got for apt first because of slight performance gains
15:25:49 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> apt and its .deb file is distro dependent but i personally go for apt first because of slight performance gains
15:25:59 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> apt and its .deb files is distro dependent but i personally go for apt first because of slight performance gains
15:27:14 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> Not super relevant but serves as a warning if you change distro sometime. apt install is not going to work on fedora or arch or the many others
15:27:31 <m-relay> <k​illercat103:xmr.se> Not super relevant but serves as a warning if you change distro sometime. apt install is not going to work on fedora or arch or the many others because its simply not included/installed
15:52:38 <m-relay> <a​wakeninglate:matrix.org> Hello Guys, I hope to find answers for my problems concerning Monero GUI.
15:56:59 <m-relay> <a​wakeninglate:matrix.org> After years of not using/updating I installed Monero GUI 0.18.3.4.  Synchronizing Daemon took almost two weeks, and the pain is not over, because the "Wallets block Remaining" seems to take also maybe weeks.
15:57:58 <m-relay> <a​wakeninglate:matrix.org> the more its aproaching the end, the more it goes slower.
15:58:00 <m-relay> <a​wakeninglate:matrix.org> This is for me a big pain. Especially when starting up Monero GUI again.
15:58:02 <m-relay> <a​wakeninglate:matrix.org> Yes, I use a HDD, and no, the lmdb is not in C:\program files\Monero GUI Wallet, lmdb is located at E:... Why? I don't want the lmdb files eating away C:\ space. That can endanger proper functioning of windows.
15:58:04 <m-relay> <a​wakeninglate:matrix.org> C:\ drive is an SSD drive.
15:58:06 <m-relay> <a​wakeninglate:matrix.org> E:\ is an HDD.
15:59:12 <m-relay> <a​wakeninglate:matrix.org> Who is familiar with the solution?
16:03:55 <m-relay> <a​wakeninglate:matrix.org> Also changes to  the "Restore Wallet Height" does not affect the issue. The Monero GUI ignores all the changes I have made, because it always falls back to the default value of 1487123, while at the moment of this message the height is more then 3334533 blocks.
16:05:15 <m-relay> <a​wakeninglate:matrix.org> Am I really the only one with this problem?
16:07:10 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> LMDB on a hard drive is really, really slow because it does a lot of random reads by design. Don't use it from a hard drive
16:09:30 <m-relay> <a​wakeninglate:matrix.org> Yes, I am aware of that, but is that related to the "Restore Wallet Height" problem?
16:11:32 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> No, the daemon has the sync the whole chain either way, so the wallet restore height doesn't affect daemon functionality. The wallet restore height comes into play when doing wallet scanning after the chain is synced
16:11:38 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> *has to
16:50:59 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> Ok. Thanks for clarifying that all. Also could you add what you mean by that :  "apt and its .deb files is distro dependent but i personally go for apt first because of slight performance gains" 
16:51:00 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> Where do I find apt downloads ? Is flatpack the apt file ?
16:59:31 <m-relay> <a​wakeninglate:matrix.org> Jeffro256: "The wallet restore height comes into play when doing wallet scanning after the chain is synced "
17:00:03 <m-relay> <a​wakeninglate:matrix.org> Thank you very much, that is insightfull
17:06:46 <m-relay> <a​wakeninglate:matrix.org> To be sure: that means the "restore height" comes into play when the wallet is ready with the wallet scanning (" Wallets Blocks Remaining" =0)?
17:10:08 <m-relay> <a​wakeninglate:matrix.org> To be sure: that means the "restore height" comes into play when the wallet is ready with the wallet scanning (" Wallets Blocks Remaining" =0)?
17:10:37 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> If you're asking whether Monero GUI updates the restore height after it's already started syncing, and then resyncs from that point, that I do not know
17:11:04 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> But it should affect the amount of blocks remaining
17:11:18 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> "wallet blocks"
17:17:09 <m-relay> <a​wakeninglate:matrix.org> Ah, no, I mean,  can I, after the wallets internal Block Check up ("Wallets Blocks Remaining"=0)has been done, apply changes to the "Wallet Restore Height"?
17:21:35 <m-relay> <a​wakeninglate:matrix.org> To be shure we are at the same wave lenght: the indicator "Wallets Blocks Remaining" comes into play after the Daemon is ready with synchronizing
17:22:20 <m-relay> <a​wakeninglate:matrix.org> Ah, no, I mean,  can I, after the wallets internal Block Check up ("Wallets Blocks Remaining"=0)has been done, apply changes to the "Wallet Restore Height"?
17:22:31 <m-relay> <a​wakeninglate:matrix.org> To be shure we are at the same wave lenght: the indicator "Wallets Blocks Remaining" comes into play after the Daemon is ready with synchronizing
17:52:28 <m-relay> <a​wakeninglate:matrix.org> And while the (very slow) progress of the internal Block Check up ("Wallets Blocks Remaining">0) is still going on, I can not apply any changes to the restore height to speed up this progress. So I have to sit out this progress till ("Wallets Blocks Remaining"=0). I believe this pretty sums up what you told me.
17:54:31 <m-relay> <a​wakeninglate:matrix.org> And while the (very slow) progress of the internal Block Check up ("Wallets Blocks Remaining">0) is still going on, I can not apply any changes to the restore height to speed up this progress. So I have to sit out this progress till ("Wallets Blocks Remaining"=0). I believe this pretty sums up what you told me. Am I wrong?
17:57:46 <m-relay> <a​wakeninglate:matrix.org> Hello Folks, I see you reading this. Is this your problem too?
18:12:19 <m-relay> <a​wakeninglate:matrix.org> I emphazise this again: The Daemon was ready with downloading the blockchain. The statusbar shows maximum. There above you find another statusbar: "Wallets Block Remaining". And OMG, that progress seems to take days too. While the (very slow) progress of the internal Block Check up ("Wallets Blocks Remaining">0) is still going on, I can not apply any changes to the restore height <clipped message>
18:12:20 <m-relay> <a​wakeninglate:matrix.org> to speed up this progress. So I have to sit out this progress till ("Wallets Blocks Remaining"=0). I believe this pretty sums up what you told me. Am I wrong?
18:17:03 <m-relay> <a​wakeninglate:matrix.org> I emphazise this again: The Daemon was ready with downloading the blockchain. The statusbar shows maximum. There above you find another statusbar: "Wallets Block Remaining". This statusbar comes into action only after Daemon has downloaded the whole blockchain. And OMG, that progress seems to take days too. While the (very slow) progress of the internal Block Check up ("Wallets Bl<clipped message>
18:17:04 <m-relay> <a​wakeninglate:matrix.org> ocks Remaining">0) is still going on, I can not apply any changes to the restore height to speed up this progress. So I have to sit out this progress till ("Wallets Blocks Remaining"=0). I believe this pretty sums up what you told me. Am I wrong?
19:05:34 <m-relay> <r​brunner7:monero.social> awakeninglate: "Am I wrong?" Don't think so, this all sounds correct to me. I am just wondering why the wallet sync, the second one that displays progress on the first bar, should be so slow. Not sure whether that's simply a result of using a HDD, again. Is your CPU also relatively slow?
23:02:24 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> the wallet blocks shouldnt be moving unless a) using simple bootstrap mode or b) the node (daemon) is finished syncing
23:03:20 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> syncing a wallet from an hdd node is also much slower than syncing from an ssd node