11:34:42 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> During Monero Gui installation when I chose the advance mode the node will be downloaded on my computer disc .
11:34:42 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> Can I downloaded that on the external drive ? I do not have 250GB free  space on my computer fot the node right now .
11:36:50 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Change the storage location
11:36:53 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> Could someone explain in few words what the node does ? What is it for ?
11:37:30 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> I see. So there is no problem to run the node on external drive ?
11:38:02 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> It stores and verifies the history of the network and relays transsctions
11:39:48 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> No problem with it being external. An ssd is preferred as an hdd will be slow.
11:44:02 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> I see. Thank you for explanation what the node is and what it does. 
11:44:02 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> I think on this time I need to use a HDD external drive until I find out how I can use the SSD internal drive. For now SSD has not enough space .
11:44:31 <m-relay> <g​ingeropolous:monero.social> you can also find the --prune option, whic will reduce the need from 250gb to almost 1/3rd
11:45:31 <m-relay> <g​ingeropolous:monero.social> there might be a checkbox setting somewhere in the GUI, but if not: https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/11454/how-do-i-utilize-blockchain-pruning-in-the-gui-monero-wallet-gui
12:18:55 <nioc> external drive is slower than internal and an HDD is very slow for downloading the blockchain due to it being poor with random I/O
12:19:21 <nioc> see you in a month or 2  0_o
12:41:26 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> Even with prune option there is not enough space on SSD drive.
12:49:56 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> So the best is to have the node on an internal drive. I see.  I need to find a solution then for my computer back up as the back up  fills up my SSD drive right now .
12:52:56 <nioc> an external SSD should not be too bad, depends on the interface  
12:53:05 <nioc> an HDD is bad for initial sync but will keep up once synced without issue
12:53:44 <nioc> having an HDD on external gave me a visceral reaction  :D
13:24:44 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> I see. I need to find a solution for my computer back up then  to get SSD internal drive free space.
13:25:04 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Best is use an ssd, whether internal or external
13:38:57 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> Could you please explain it to me in few words why is that ? What is the difference between SSD and HDD that SSD is better ,faster , more reliable then HDD ? Is it because HDD do not have the same mechanism which moves the disc itself ? I am just guessing ?
13:42:23 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> "HDD is very slow for downloading the blockchain due to it being poor with random I/O"
13:42:50 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> (Thx nioc)
13:43:42 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> aiui, lmdb (the database) does a lot of ramdom i/o
14:01:40 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> Ok . Thanks . Now I know what you mean by random I/O :
14:01:40 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org>  https://condusiv.com/sequential-io-always-outperforms-random-io-on-hard-disk-drives-or-ssds/
14:01:42 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> Thank you .
14:01:44 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> So actually I could have Externall SSD which will be almost the same speed and performance for Monero Gui Node as internal SSD drive ? 
14:01:46 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> Do I understand it right ?
15:17:35 <nioc> not sure what the difference between an internal vs external SSD is but it will be significantly faster than a HDD
16:03:45 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> Internal usually means it's connected directly to the motherboard thru an m.2 or SATA connection, for example. External usually means that it's connected by some detachable connection like USB
18:15:05 -xmr-pr- elibroftw opened issue #4410: [Bug] [Windows] Reopening a Minimized Window that was once Maximized
18:15:05 -xmr-pr- > https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/issues/4410
19:00:13 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> Yes that is what I mean . I can not connect another SSD internally as there is no more slots so maybe I could have another SSD outside . ..... but please be aware I am just thinking loud . I just have a general knowledge about it all and trying to find a solution the best in my case . 
19:00:14 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> Maybe I can bay a bigger SSD for internal use and replace the older 1TB one . That would be probably better but it is costly . At this moment I need to count unfortunately  each penny .
19:01:44 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> You can also just get a usb enclosure for an extra internal one
19:06:26 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> You mean SSD witch is connected to the computer but from outside by usb slot and it is cover by enclosure ? Right ?
19:07:15 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Yea
19:17:02 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> Let me ask you about this. I wonder what do you think : 
19:17:04 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> How to buy Monero without KYC ?  I need to pay for some service and they accept Bitcoin. ... and I really would like to start to use Monero . For now it is slow process of setting up all I need for this kind of transactions. I have been trying with MetaMask wallet and I have been shocked that I had to give them my private sensitive information about myself which actually made this<clipped message>
19:17:06 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org>  process exactly opposite to anonymity . I always thought crypto is anonymous but now I know it is not  and most of it probably it is a scam to make us used to digital cash controlled by the same who control monetary system since millennia and enslave human beings on this planet .
19:17:08 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> Hopefully Monero is not .
19:37:56 <m-relay> <m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> https://kycnot.me/?t=exchange&q=&xmr=on&fiat=on
19:38:08 <m-relay> <m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> also robosats supports XMR since when! how I have not heard this
19:59:38 <Norrin> robosats has an irc channel? 
20:02:28 <m-relay> <n​inoni:matrix.org> Thank you . I try to find out how to make no KYC transaction over there .