11:10:12 <br-m> <shortwavesurfer2009> https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/monero.social/gNJsChiXSMYMtaPsGIcNahvP.png (1000010139.png)
11:10:15 <br-m> <shortwavesurfer2009> 👋
11:10:43 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> greetings
11:12:16 <selsta> how useable is it in landscape?
11:12:27 <br-m> <shortwavesurfer2009> Sorry for putting GUI related stuff in dev and thanks for the point here
11:12:46 <br-m> <shortwavesurfer2009> Haven't tried that yet. I primarily use my phone in portrait mode, but we'll give it a look.
11:14:10 <br-m> <shortwavesurfer2009> Looks like it should be pretty usable. The left list only has two items under the balance and stuff, but it is scrollable, so you can move around it. And the rest of the UI isn't being cut off.
11:14:25 <br-m> <shortwavesurfer2009> https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/monero.social/TZbNnammAEQTPqEevCVGDgzS.png (1000010140.png)
11:15:02 <selsta> with LLMs it might be easy to add a better design for mobile
11:18:16 <br-m> <shortwavesurfer2009> As long as it remains in QML, because my primary thing is I'd like to see it on Post Market OS and Ubuntu Touch in the future.
11:19:08 <br-m> <shortwavesurfer2009> I was chatting with KimiK3, and apparently there are no Monero GUI wallets for Ubuntu Touch or post-market OS.
11:19:08 <br-m> <shortwavesurfer2009> And so to that end, I've also been teaching myself how to use the CLI wallet.
11:20:32 <br-m> <shortwavesurfer2009> See, I am not a developer. I cannot write the code to make something like this work. I'm just a tester.
11:23:04 <br-m> <shortwavesurfer2009> selsta: By the way, your QT6 patch is the one I built this on, and it's working great.
11:23:50 <selsta> Qt6 patch will be merged soon, once we have v0.18.5.3 out.
11:23:57 <selsta> Yes, it will stay QML.
11:26:16 <br-m> <shortwavesurfer2009> When I was creating the Docker build environment for Android, it did force me to do a "git submodule update --init --force --recursive" before it would build the build environment.
11:26:34 <br-m> <shortwavesurfer2009> Docker*
11:26:49 <selsta> did you clone with recursive submodules?
11:27:14 <br-m> <shortwavesurfer2009> selsta: Apparently not at first. After I did that though, it was happy.
11:44:26 <br-m> <shortwavesurfer2009> Apparently some effort was made in like 2021 to work on this. See issue.
11:44:26 <br-m> <shortwavesurfer2009> https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/issues/3493
11:44:26 <br-m> <shortwavesurfer2009> And pr https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/pull/3500
11:44:52 <br-m> <shortwavesurfer2009> That PR is horribly out of date, but maybe something can be used from it.
11:46:39 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> fwiw, gui isnt the only app that can be used. most flutter (mobile) apps work on pc as well 
11:48:34 <br-m> <thomasbuilds:matrix.org> I'm unsure whever I want to test a monero gui redesign with opus-5.5. This model is cheaper and could achieve good results.
11:48:42 <br-m> <shortwavesurfer2009> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Does flutter work on a bunch of touch in post-market OS? This I do not know. I know that QML works on all three. Android, post-market, and Ubuntu Touch. But I do not know about Flutter.
11:48:42 <br-m> <shortwavesurfer2009> And QML is what the GUI is already written in.
11:49:22 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> its basically the same app across platforms. cake mobile and cake desktop are the same code
11:49:29 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> (cake as an example)
11:49:52 <br-m> <thomasbuilds:matrix.org> @thomasbuilds:matrix.org: there's not much commitment to it it's just to see the result u know
11:50:17 <br-m> <thomasbuilds:matrix.org> but ofc if most here are heavily opposed and would never consider such a thing I won't even test, there's no point
11:50:51 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> a full redesign? or a redesign to the look when it is side-tiled or on a smalls screen?
11:51:06 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> a full redesign, probably not wanted. responsive ui, probably good
11:51:27 <br-m> <thomasbuilds:matrix.org> basically improve current ui / make it responsive
11:51:52 <br-m> <thomasbuilds:matrix.org> not massive changes ofc, I have noted few stuff I dislike in the current UI
11:52:15 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> id separate the smaller inprovements from the responsive stuff
11:52:33 <br-m> <shortwavesurfer2009> Flutter apps can run on Ubuntu Touch, but they may need to be treated like HTML5 apps and may not fully integrate with system features. As for Postmarket OS, while Flutter supports Linux desktop applications, specific compatibility with Postmarket OS is not clearly established.
11:52:33 <br-m> <shortwavesurfer2009>  forums.ubports.com daily.dev
11:52:33 <br-m> <shortwavesurfer2009> Flutter Apps on Ubuntu Touch[... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/-dSH5q0LTU1LTnI5 ]
11:52:59 <br-m> <thomasbuilds:matrix.org> will see yeah