00:09:44 <DataHoarder> 6 hours ago, shares be dropping :)
00:11:57 <crypto_grampy[m]> Is anyone charting the p2pool hashrate? 
00:12:44 <DataHoarder> logs should be enough to chart it later
00:12:51 <DataHoarder> or blocks found
00:13:47 <DataHoarder> just look at difficulty over time
00:14:00 <DataHoarder> from the jobs 
00:14:14 <DataHoarder> but yes it'd be a nice chart to have
00:15:58 <crypto_grampy[m]> Would be fun to see how quickly it's growing/what pools the hashrate is coming from
00:35:48 <QuickBASIC> crypto_grampy[m] https://minexmr.com/pools has graphs for p2pool hashrate if you zoom in really really far.
00:50:24 <DataHoarder> Oh, you can also click on it on the legend to select/unselect it 
00:50:35 <DataHoarder> double click for only showing that
02:06:43 <garth> sech do we need to roster the
02:07:15 <garth> Sech do we need to update our Monerod to the new version or is the old one fine to use? 
02:25:52 <QuickBASIC> garth you should still be using the one that you compiled from GitHub because the zmq changes didn't make it into this release.
02:44:07 <DataHoarder> (Newest one works for wallet and tracking mined outputs, just not as the p2pool monerod)
06:00:53 <mightysnowman> I'm still using a 4 day old build
06:01:00 <mightysnowman> Is that fine?
06:02:11 <sech1> it's better to update to latest, I don't want to catch bugs I already fixed
06:02:30 <sech1> crypto_grampy https://minexmr.com/pools
06:07:12 <mightysnowman> Aaaa it takes 10 minutes download and build required things and me lazy
06:09:40 <mightysnowman> Also people talking about build errors here
06:09:43 <mightysnowman> They still present?
06:13:58 <sech1> It should build on ubunutu, macos and windows
07:37:28 <murr4y> Is it meaningful for low hashrate miners to try p2pool? (10-20kH/s)
07:38:47 <jaska087> Give it a go for a week and check results
07:38:48 <jaska087> :)
07:46:44 <sech1> I have several payouts a day with 30 kh/s
07:47:04 <sech1> even 1 kh/s miners will get a payout once every few days
08:23:26 <mightysnowman> Wait are all crypto exchanges a loss of money for exchanger?
08:23:52 <mightysnowman> Checking the sites they say 1% fee but end result would be 10% loss
12:05:37 <DataHoarder> hmm, any reason why clan has these defined? https://github.com/SChernykh/p2pool/blob/master/src/log.h#L174-L177
12:05:54 <DataHoarder> it... fails compilation on clang
12:06:26 <DataHoarder> p2pool/src/log.h:175:1: error: redefinition of 'Entry<long>'
12:06:26 <DataHoarder> INT_ENTRY(long)
12:06:26 <DataHoarder> p2pool/src/log.h:168:1: note: previous definition is here
12:06:26 <DataHoarder> INT_ENTRY(int64_t)
12:08:35 <DataHoarder> (also the second definition there)
12:09:04 <DataHoarder> it's from initial push, so can't find any reason why, is it related to a specific clang version?
12:09:25 <DataHoarder> running clang 10 here
12:13:14 <sech1> this was for macos
12:17:30 <DataHoarder> hmm, then maybe ifdef can be targeted a bit better
12:18:00 <sech1> yes, it looks like #ifdef __APPLE__ works too
12:18:56 <DataHoarder> replaced it locally to #if defined(__clang__) && defined(__APPLE__)
12:19:11 <DataHoarder> unless it's apple-specific for gcc and so too 
12:19:14 <sech1> there's only clang on macos
12:19:34 <QuickBASIC> "murr4y: Is it meaningful for low hashrate miners to try p2pool? (10-20kH/s)" My hashrate varies between 2-4 kH/s (depending on whether my son's gaming rig is participating or he's using it) but on average for week 3 Kh/s and I've gotten three payments so far this week.
12:20:09 <QuickBASIC> (it's an old ass gaming rig BTW)
12:23:17 <DataHoarder> btw sech1 had to specifically apt install libgss-dev
12:23:32 <DataHoarder> otherwise apparently did not have libgss
12:23:38 <DataHoarder> (classic /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgss)
12:23:56 <DataHoarder> this was an Ubuntu 20.04 flavor
12:24:28 <sech1> it's in the build instructions in readme
12:24:55 <DataHoarder> doh, copied the monerod one
12:25:12 <DataHoarder> just doing some local testing, was quite confused
12:25:27 <DataHoarder> maybe should have gotten more sleep
12:31:10 <DataHoarder> oh, new block
12:31:26 <DataHoarder> https://xmrchain.net/block/2444182
12:34:46 <DataHoarder> growing, 14 outputs now
12:41:49 <QuickBASIC> sech1 One question for my understanding about the shares in the PPLNS window, do shares get wiped as soon as we find a block or they stay in the window for the whole time. i.e. if I have a share, we find a block, I get paid on that block, then we find another block can I get paid again for same share?
12:44:35 <sech1> they stay in PPLNS window for 2160 pool blocks
12:44:53 <QuickBASIC> The reason I ask, is I'm looking at show_transfers in my wallet and all my payouts are w/in the same 6 hour window... oh just saw reply... makes sense.
12:44:55 <sech1> one share can give you many payouts if the pool is lucky
12:45:29 <QuickBASIC> Awesome. That's how I thought it worked. I was just confirming because I had told some people on Reddit that's how it worked.
13:10:29 <mightysnowman> Wait but doesn't it break if the pool gets more miners and blocks start to be found more often?
13:10:50 <mightysnowman> Like when I would find 1 share and in 6 hours pool finds 10 blocks
13:11:00 <mightysnowman> Where the money comes I dont understand
13:11:07 <jaska087> :D
13:11:39 <jaska087> ooooof.. I don't where to begin with that..
13:13:56 <mightysnowman> I lost 1 out of my 2 braincells trying to understand it
13:18:02 <QuickBASIC> Every block has a block reward and fees. So the payment to those miners is coming from each blocks reward as coinbases same as normal.
13:18:23 <jaska087> Do you understand how pool mining works in general?
13:18:56 <jaska087> wrote long ass explanation but deleted it for being too complicated.. :D
13:18:57 <QuickBASIC> Me? No. I'm just explaining where the payment is coming from. I couldn't explain the philosphy behind PPLNS and why it's "fair".
13:19:06 <jaska087> sorry I meant QuickBASIC
13:19:10 <jaska087> I meant
13:19:14 <jaska087> AAAAAA mightysnowman
13:20:09 <mightysnowman> I understand normal pool mining
13:20:24 <mightysnowman> Where I help mine one block and get rewarded for some % of that block
13:20:27 <jaska087> It's excactly the same thing, execpt there is share culling happening
13:21:00 <jaska087> yes and you will get paid for that 1 share within that 2160 ppln window
13:21:30 <jaska087> the % changes if other p2pool miners send more shares or don't send shares
13:22:16 <sethsimmons> Pools use PPLNS windows or similar as well, this is no different.
13:22:29 <sethsimmons> You get paid in proportion to your hashes during the PPLNS window, per block found
13:22:37 <jaska087> lets say there are 9 shares submitted within that 2160 ppln window, 1 is yours. block is found by someone, the total shares becomes 10, you get paid for 1 share, 10% of total block value.
13:22:45 <sethsimmons> If you're 10% of the p2pool hashrate you get 10% of each block found during the window.
13:23:07 <jaska087> later the share amount increases to 19 shares, still 1 is yours, block is found you get 5% of total block value
13:23:09 <jaska087> etc.
13:24:34 <jaska087> if the share is older then 2160 sidechain blocks you won't get paid
13:24:50 <mightysnowman> Ooh cool makes sense
13:25:10 <mightysnowman> Only if I'd ever get any shares
13:25:35 <QuickBASIC> What's your hr mightysnowman?
13:25:40 <mightysnowman> 8kh
13:26:01 <mightysnowman> Perhaps the problem is that I havent mined p2pool 24/7
13:26:06 <mightysnowman> Only like 6 hours each day
13:26:27 <mightysnowman> Could it be?
13:26:29 <QuickBASIC> Oh, so you're effective hr is really low if you're not mining all day.
13:26:51 <QuickBASIC> It would be the same as mining with 2kh/s 24 hours.
13:26:51 <mightysnowman> What is effective hr
13:27:01 <mightysnowman> Oh okay
13:27:38 <mightysnowman> Deem I need to get myself separate rig for mining
13:28:01 <mightysnowman> Its my only pc and cant really use it for work while mining
13:28:20 <jaska087> Why is that?
13:29:04 <mightysnowman> I need to run resource intensive stuff
13:29:16 <jaska087> ah right
13:29:28 <jaska087> you could try --cpu-priority 0
13:29:37 <jaska087> I can do pretty much everything with all threads in use :)
13:29:38 <mightysnowman> It isnt by default?
13:29:42 <jaska087> nope
13:29:52 <mightysnowman> Oh okay makes sense will try lowering priority
14:53:30 <mightysnowman> Why monero price rn go brr down
14:53:53 <mightysnowman> 60€ drop if I'm looking at the right graph
14:58:23 <gingeropolous> cause the corn went down
14:58:27 <gingeropolous> also, #monero-markets
15:01:09 <QuickBASIC> The last time I looked in there they were talking about masking and conspiracy theories. No thanks.
15:06:41 <nioc> lol
15:20:46 <DataHoarder> mightysnowman: just a normal that kills leverage, carry on
15:44:31 <mightysnowman> what are the "not found" during building, are they a problem? https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/kfpXgswD/
15:57:56 <DataHoarder> that is fine, it's just looking at what to use on your system mightysnowman 
15:58:13 <DataHoarder> normal cmake/configure etc behavior
15:58:24 <mightysnowman> okay
15:58:55 <mightysnowman> a noob question but can I just combine those 2 things into single .sh script?
15:59:13 <mightysnowman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/raHgfjhb/
15:59:43 <mightysnowman> like so
16:00:38 <mightysnowman> it works but made folders in different places for some reason
16:00:45 <mightysnowman> compared to manual copy/paste
16:01:00 <mightysnowman> I ran the script from ~ just like the shell by default does
16:21:48 <QuickBASIC> When the second part of the script runs you're in ./p2pool/build/ so it clones the Monero repo there. Try adding a cd ../.. in between the blocks so you go back to where the script is run from.
16:22:20 <QuickBASIC> Also, you only need to install the packages once so you can remove both apt-get lines if they're already installed.
16:23:59 <QuickBASIC> If you run the script again though, you're going to get git errors because the repo folders already exist, so you'll need to use git fetch instead.
16:24:36 <QuickBASIC> ^ mightysnowman 
16:25:41 <jaska087> git fetch? isn't git pull enough?
16:25:57 <mightysnowman> didnt get any git-related errors
16:26:06 <mightysnowman> ran the stuff for the same dir
16:27:29 <QuickBASIC> jaska087 ah yeah probably. I just know you can't use clone if it exists already.
16:28:34 <QuickBASIC> ~/.src$ git clone --recursive https://github.com/SChernykh/p2pool
16:28:34 <QuickBASIC> fatal: destination path 'p2pool' already exists and is not an empty directory.
16:28:49 <mightysnowman> wait is there a command than could do either clone or pull automatically_
16:28:50 <jaska087> yes, that why i'm a bit concerned he didn't get any errors
16:28:50 <mightysnowman> ?
16:29:14 <mightysnowman> perhaps there were errors but cant find em because big history
16:29:24 <QuickBASIC> He was probably in a different pwd
16:30:06 <mightysnowman> yeah it seems so
16:31:22 <QuickBASIC> Just strike line 2 and s/cd p2pool/cd p2pool && git pull/
16:32:13 <QuickBASIC> But don't lend me too much credence... most of my bash knowledge is from SunOS lol.
16:33:03 <mightysnowman> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/UrrRnLmv/image.png
16:33:15 <mightysnowman> so that should be?
16:33:25 <mightysnowman> added  the cd and replaced clone with pull
16:34:21 <QuickBASIC> I don't think you can pull from outside the directory like that.
16:34:32 <QuickBASIC> it needs the .git file in the same dir
16:34:47 <mightysnowman> so just add .git to end_
16:34:48 <mightysnowman> ?
16:35:16 <DataHoarder> this is the moment where I would recommend some kind of jail or container
16:36:15 <mightysnowman> what
16:37:25 <mightysnowman> I googled, it should work tho
16:37:31 <mightysnowman> pull and then directory
16:38:02 <mightysnowman> could you try?
16:38:08 <DataHoarder> would recommend specifically checking if you have already pulled, then fetch and reset to head instead
16:38:15 <DataHoarder> or... just nuke it :>
16:38:20 <mightysnowman> yeah
16:38:33 <mightysnowman> sudo rm /*
16:38:37 <mightysnowman> -r
16:41:34 <QuickBASIC> lol
16:42:00 <mightysnowman> ayo my linux gone
16:42:06 <QuickBASIC> DataHoader my assumption is that he likely hasn't made any local changes, so shouldn't have to reset to head.
16:42:36 <DataHoarder> oh you are doing pull without the clone there?
16:42:49 <DataHoarder> remote changes can happen
16:42:56 <DataHoarder> and they can be conflicting QuickBASIC 
16:43:01 <DataHoarder> not just mergeable
16:43:10 <DataHoarder> for example if force pushes happen
16:45:50 <QuickBASIC> lawd av mercy. git is confusing... I thought git pull was basically shorthand for git fetch then git merge FETCH_HEAD with changes?
16:46:02 <DataHoarder> which can conflict yes
16:46:34 <QuickBASIC> Okay. So what should I be doing to update my local repo when I recompile, then?
16:46:36 <DataHoarder> note you can also just wget a tar.gz or zip of the repo
16:47:19 <DataHoarder> git fetch && git reset --hard origin/master && git submodule sync && git submodule update --init --force --recursive
16:47:23 <DataHoarder> for monerod afaik
16:47:35 <DataHoarder> as submodules can also change yay
16:47:41 <DataHoarder> or get added/removed
16:51:29 <xmrpow> Why does the p2ppool wallet-cli show incoming transactions from mining and the normal gui wallet not? 
16:52:45 <QuickBASIC> Urgh.. linux is there a way to just dump text into a file... i.e. like TYPE in MS-DOS... TYPE > file.txt, then SHIFT+INS
16:53:58 <DataHoarder> xmrpow: you might need to upgrade to latest gui
16:54:02 <DataHoarder> or follow instructions on README
16:54:23 <DataHoarder> oh, they were removed now
16:54:34 <xmrpow> @QuickB echo "hallo" > test.txt
16:54:34 <DataHoarder> latest GUI shows the special outputs mined
16:54:50 <DataHoarder> QuickBASIC: cat > file
16:54:56 <DataHoarder> type things now :)
16:54:57 <DataHoarder> or paste
16:55:10 <QuickBASIC> Ah thank you.
16:55:19 <DataHoarder> xmrpow: Official Monero CLI and GUI v0.17.2.3 and newer
16:55:25 <DataHoarder> if you update to that it should do it
16:55:33 <DataHoarder> alternatively
16:55:34 <DataHoarder> > - Open this wallet in CLI: run `./monero-wallet-cli`, enter the wallet file name there and then enter the command `set refresh-type full`. **This step is important!** If you don't do it, you won't see p2pool payouts!
16:55:45 <DataHoarder> then you can open with GUI again
16:55:57 <xmrpow> Ok thank you!
16:55:58 <DataHoarder> no idea if you might need to rescan the last few blocks to see the outputs again
16:56:07 <xmrpow> ill try
16:58:07 <mightysnowman> also what are 1gb pages?
16:58:15 <sech1> use v0.17.2.3 and rescan the wallet
16:58:16 <mightysnowman> what are they for if I have huge pages enabled?
16:59:00 <mightysnowman> rn I have 1gb pages disabled
16:59:23 <DataHoarder> better one off allocation mightysnowman, instead of using many small hugepages it uses fewer 1g
16:59:36 <DataHoarder> https://xmrig.com/docs/miner/hugepages
16:59:41 <mightysnowman> ty
17:00:13 <DataHoarder> smaller performance increase compared to having normal hugepages in the first place
17:39:31 <mightysnowman> how's the electricity cost for you guys?
17:39:37 <mightysnowman> kwh
17:39:59 <mightysnowman> 0.062€/kwh here
17:48:34 <mightysnowman> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA remember how I deleted the monero and p2pool folders before
17:48:44 <mightysnowman> where is the default wallet file location
17:49:12 <mightysnowman> luckily it didnt get any payouts yet
17:53:38 <jaska087> always backup your seed D:
17:53:51 <nioc> more than once
17:54:27 <mightysnowman> didnt bother since made a new wallet for p2pool as it told me to and since p2pool beta I didnt think I'd keep mining or anything
17:55:28 <jaska087> around 0.12€ kw/h
17:56:22 <jaska087> electricity itself costs about 0.046 kw/h, rest of the price is bulshittery
17:56:23 <jaska087> :)
17:56:32 <mightysnowman> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/QMdHspoj/image.png
17:56:37 <mightysnowman> what does this lock mean and how to remove it
17:56:43 <mightysnowman> it seems to cause problems
17:57:00 <jaska087> you've created that file with sudo/root rights?
17:57:05 <mightysnowman> yes
17:57:27 <jaska087> Well there's your problem
17:57:46 <mightysnowman> how to fix it
17:59:03 <mightysnowman> there was linux in school but the teacher was a bitch so I dont know anything
17:59:38 <DataHoarder> mightysnowman: you can use the same wallet in the end, just needed initially a few settings set
17:59:47 <DataHoarder> for the file/folder mode
17:59:56 <DataHoarder> check chmod / chgroup
18:00:00 <DataHoarder> chown*
18:02:13 <mightysnowman> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Dae4E3u4/image.png
18:02:17 <mightysnowman> im losing my brain
18:03:12 <mightysnowman> nvm typo
18:05:00 <mightysnowman> I'm too spoiled by windows
18:05:08 <mightysnowman> linux hurts my brain
18:05:21 <DataHoarder> I'm too spoiled by linux
18:05:27 <DataHoarder> windows hurts my brain :)
18:05:43 <DataHoarder> what is this thing called a "mouse pointer"
18:05:47 <hyc> windows hurts itself https://twitter.com/arstechnica/status/1435290023503405057
18:06:06 <mightysnowman> I mean I would learn linux and use it daily only if I wasn't stuck with windows propiretary software and games and stufff
18:06:18 <mightysnowman> wine is unable to emulate all of them
18:06:38 <mightysnowman> hopefully Steam deck makes devs focus on linux more
18:07:33 <hyc> srsly how can anyone still trust microsoft after all this time, such a clear track record
18:08:17 <QuickBASIC> PoweShell spoils me. Linux terms don't atab complete parameters and it annoys me.
18:08:38 <QuickBASIC>  /s/atab/tab
18:09:38 <QuickBASIC> Type 'Get-Mailbox -' tab tab tab to see all the available parameters etc.
18:12:15 <QuickBASIC> For some things trust Microsoft. There's a reason M$ Exchange + Exchange Online has 65% market share.
18:12:16 <hyc> that's what <cmd> -h (or --help) is for
18:12:18 <DataHoarder> mightysnowman: proton ftw :)
18:12:37 <DataHoarder> and QuickBASIC it tab completes here
18:12:44 <DataHoarder> just need to have proper tab completion added
18:13:13 <DataHoarder> Linux is the kernel, blame userland :)
18:13:53 <QuickBASIC> hyc: "that's what <cmd> -h (or --help) is for" if I'm in the middle of typing a command I have to open another term or screen or web browser.
18:15:09 <DataHoarder> nah you can save commands
18:15:18 <DataHoarder> that's what the terminal is for :)
18:15:29 <DataHoarder> but yeah it takes time to get used to everything
18:15:34 <hyc> lol https://twitter.com/CSA_DVillamizar/status/1432870560774692865
18:15:42 <QuickBASIC> DataHoarder: "Linux is the kernel, blame userland :)" fair enough but coming from a Windows background I expect sane tab complete to be a default for whatever distro's default terminal is installed.
18:16:18 <hyc> https://twitter.com/horovits/status/1431996877927591937
18:17:00 <QuickBASIC> Yeah thankfully that's out of my support scope. Our Azure guys were scrambling though lol.
18:17:15 <hyc> https://twitter.com/argevise/status/1434441376603807747
18:17:24 <hyc> so much for Exchange...
18:19:06 <QuickBASIC> Yeah, but that's people neglecting to patch. There's been only one Exchange zero day in the wild in the last year, but I admit you can't always trust Microsoft.
18:19:55 <hyc> it all reflects a trend of growing stupidity. you can't trust them to secure your desktop
18:20:07 <QuickBASIC> I actually only do support for O365 and some hybrid configs. on-prem is a whole other problem to secure.
18:20:12 <hyc> and now they're pusing all their customer into the cloud, which is even less trustworthy
18:20:40 <hyc> and the scope of a breach in the cloud tends to dwarf anything that could be breached on-prem
18:21:26 <hyc> aside from the fact that they no longer make any pretense of you "owning" any of the software. now it's all perpetual lease, pay up and keep paying
18:21:56 <hyc> they are the very picture of evil capitalism, just rent-seeking trash.
18:22:49 <QuickBASIC> I don't disagree, but they print my paycheck every month on time and I'm not crypto-rich yet.
18:23:50 <QuickBASIC> But it was a mistake to defend them. Exchange is trash, but most businesses DO trust and use it for some reason.
18:23:52 <hyc> I wonder if UBI would make unethical companies like that go extinct
18:24:18 <QuickBASIC> Maybe. I was sad when Andrew Yang dropped out.
18:24:41 <sech1> finally a block!
18:26:51 <QuickBASIC> Urgh I think I broke something when I recompiled monerod. Thankfuly my miners jumped over to my NAT'd p2pool
18:40:10 <sethsimmons> Pushed a Docker image for monerod off of the p2pool branch: sethsimmons/simple-monerod:p2pool-api-v0.17
18:40:34 <sethsimmons> https://hub.docker.com/layers/sethsimmons/simple-monerod/p2pool-api-v0.17/images/sha256-1db0aa6de4a58408d12f3603129f42163fbffa57edac30f1e600b7cb92b6968c?context=explore
18:41:09 <sech1> one more block
18:48:25 <DataHoarder> yay
18:49:03 <DataHoarder> talking about docker stuff sethsimmons, pushing a repo out here soon
19:10:23 <DataHoarder> if you want a docker-compose setup https://github.com/WeebDataHoarder/p2pool-compose
19:52:37 <karce[m]> I tested the arch linux aur package again on another computer today and the build worked flawlessly : )
20:13:41 <sethsimmons> <DataHoarder> "if you want a docker-compose..." <- Awesome! I also have an example using my own Docker images here:
20:13:41 <sethsimmons> https://github.com/sethsimmons/p2pool-docker/blob/main/examples/docker-compose.yml
20:24:18 <DataHoarder> Had tor setup, removed it for ease of use in the end
20:24:52 <DataHoarder> Oh btw sethsimmons I would recommend bumping up the outgoing connections for monerod at least
20:25:03 <DataHoarder> and optionally pinning some well known peers
20:25:24 <DataHoarder> should make block propagation quicker
20:26:18 <DataHoarder> Reason why tor was removed from mine was to have all images built locally, not just downloaded from dockerhub 
20:26:19 <sethsimmons> DataHoarder: Probably for this purpose wouldn't be bad, but I generally don't recommend it.
20:26:38 <DataHoarder> Yeah, specifically for *this* purpose
20:36:26 <utxobr[m]> > <@sethsimmons:monero.social> Awesome! I also have an example using my own Docker images here:
20:36:26 <utxobr[m]> > 
20:36:26 <utxobr[m]> > https://github.com/sethsimmons/p2pool-docker/blob/main/examples/docker-compose.yml
20:36:26 <utxobr[m]> Seth: if you're building over and over, might be worth giving a shot at mounting ccache's dir as a buildkit cache mount  (https://github.com/cirocosta/monero-builds/blob/b2718db599303df081f74b19b565cd3c7f5abb8c/monero/Dockerfile#L285-L286) 
20:40:03 <utxobr[m]> https://github.com/cirocosta/monero-builds/blob/b2718db599303df081f74b19b565cd3c7f5abb8c/p2pool/Dockerfile#L72-L76 sech1  😅 waiting for that sweet change to easily generate static builds haha 
20:40:34 <sech1> So far I was only able to create proper static build on Alpine linux
20:41:07 <sech1> but I confirmed it's working even on Ubuntu 16.04
20:41:53 <utxobr[m]> niice
20:42:04 <sech1> the problem is with getaddrinfo linking on other distros
20:43:58 <sech1> the build itself is straight-forward - create Alpine Linux VM, apk add git make cmake libstdc++ gcc g++ automake libtool autoconf linux-headers and then build libsodium, libuv, libzmq in external/src
20:44:38 <sech1> and then for p2pool cmae .. -DSTATIC_LINUX_BINARY=ON and so on
20:45:23 <sethsimmons> <utxobr[m]> "> <@sethsimmons:monero.social..." <- Cache is used on some rebuilds, but intentionally not in most others for apt upgrade purposes.
20:45:44 <sethsimmons> But its all Github CI so Idc about the delays due to not caching, and I don't cache only when I don't want to by design.
20:46:28 <utxobr[m]> yeah makes a lot of sense - found quite useful when iterating constantly 
21:08:52 <DataHoarder> Tried to generate static build of p2pool indeed, saw the way, but did not attempt on the end
21:32:57 <DataHoarder> Nice DNS-based seed node loading commits!
22:01:35 <shadowfax-87[m]> I have successfully built the p2pool and monero as per instructions in the SChernykh's github. But I am not able to get things together to mining work. Where are the binaries to run the monero daemon? Anyone known more detailed instructions to set things up? 
22:01:42 <xmrpow> " electricity itself costs about 0.046 kw/h, rest of the price is bulshittery"  -> Tell that the people in germany ;) We re having 25 eurocent per kwh :(
22:05:39 <xmrpow> @shadowfax-87 Have you followed the instructions on sech1's github page? They are pretty straight forward.
22:06:05 <xmrpow> https://github.com/SChernykh/p2pool
22:07:33 <abberant[m]> Can someone elaborate on the "Prepare enough huge pages (each of monerod/p2pool/xmrig needs them):" step in testing, I run both monerod and xmrig (soon to be all 3 with p2pool too) and haven't had to deal with manually preparing huge pages because xmrig seems to do it for me. The recommended command is "sudo sysctl vm.nr_hugepages=3072", is this good to just plug and chug in my situation?
22:07:55 <xmrpow> For me it worked.
22:08:53 <shadowfax-87[m]> xmrpow: Yes. The sources files compiled without any errors, but where are the binaries to run monerod?
22:10:43 <xmrpow> shadow: After the build they should be in the /build folder
22:18:41 <DataHoarder> (If it is not obvious you also need to build monerod from the linked repo, which is down a long path in build/)
22:30:43 <mxcl> abberant[m] I just skipped that step
22:31:26 <abberant[m]> I'm getting warnings about huge pages, idek if it matters so you're suggesting I just ignore them?
22:32:09 <shadowfax-87[m]> Thank you. I found it in ~/monero/build/Linux/p2pool-api-v0.17/release/bin
22:32:17 <abberant[m]> abberant[m]: if so, less work for me B)
22:36:18 <xmrpow> abberant: what's the warning?
22:36:18 <mx7[m]> Hello. Have a question about RandomX. Why isn't the key change every block, say using previous block hash or some other data from previous block?  RandomX doc says "the key should change every 2048 blocks (~2.8 days) and there should be a delay of 64 blocks (~2 hours) between the key block and the change of the key K. This can be achieved by changing the key when blockHeight % 2048 == 64 and selecting key block such that keyBlockHeight % 2048
22:36:18 <mx7[m]> == 0" but there is no detail of any security assumptions and why 2048 and a delay of 64 blocks is ideal. Maybe there was a discussion about this somewhere?
22:37:45 <mx7[m]> * this somewhere? (posted to monero-dev yesterday, but nobody had answer, so trying here, thx)
22:38:02 <abberant[m]> "... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/dc22d57374334cd6282c8c2c54848bbb58e66461)
22:38:16 <abberant[m]> on second thought maybe the last line is when it fixes itself
22:45:52 <xmrpow> abberant:  This was just working"sudo sysctl vm.nr_hugepages=3072"  ? How much RAM do you have?
22:49:13 <abberant[m]> xmrpow: 16 gigs
22:59:52 <DataHoarder> That seems fine if it allocated in the end abberant[m] just some minor delay on share verification 
23:00:01 <DataHoarder> would recommend having them though
23:00:09 <DataHoarder> and 100% for where you are mining
23:02:50 <abberant[m]> ok
23:03:56 <shadowfax-87[m]> Now is my turn with huge pages. I am getting the following message.  stat /proc/sys/vm/nr_hugepages: No such file or direct
23:04:35 <shadowfax-87[m]> sysctl: cannot stat /proc/sys/vm/nr_hugepages: No such file or directory
23:06:08 <abberant[m]> do they not get automatically allocated like mine might? 
23:06:18 <abberant[m]> > <@abberant:matrix.org> "... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/c7cf209cf48eccefb497a96aab3f85668c849794)
23:07:15 <abberant[m]> also I'm getting "JSONRPCRequest failed to connect, error ETIMEDOUT" after p2pool is left open for a little bit
23:08:19 <abberant[m]> my firewall drops forwards, but it shouldnt need to forward anyways since its all on the same machine right?
23:08:28 <abberant[m]> maybe thats blocking connection to the daemon on the same machine
23:14:46 <DataHoarder> shadowfax-87[m]: what kind of system are you on?
23:15:16 <DataHoarder> also, if you are within a jail/container you probably don’t have them unless you map them accordingly 
23:15:55 <DataHoarder> abberant[m]: that is probably your monerod not having the right port open to connect to
23:24:08 <moneromooo> mx7[m]: changing key too often means lots of time recreating the data set. Not sure why the change can't be less often though.
23:24:49 <abberant[m]> <DataHoarder> "abberant: that is probably..." <- any chance its the zmq port? I tried the regular rpc port since it said "jsonrpcrequest" and it didn't fix
23:26:21 <shadowfax-87[m]> I am using Ubuntu on Windows Subsystem for Linux.
23:29:06 <abberant[m]> I disabled my firewall and now instead of
23:29:06 <abberant[m]> "JSONRPCRequest failed to connect, error ETIMEDOUT"
23:29:06 <abberant[m]> I get
23:29:06 <abberant[m]> "JSONRPCRequest failed to parse response, result = 24"
23:29:06 <abberant[m]> O_O
23:38:30 <DataHoarder> Yes WSL will not cooperate there
23:38:46 <DataHoarder> as it is not Linux, at least on WSL1
23:39:00 <DataHoarder> it is just userland ubuntu with a windows kernel
23:39:24 <DataHoarder> why not compile it natively on Windows if you are on that platform?
23:40:06 <DataHoarder> Also do mind the bind ips might need to be 0.0.0.0, with all the confirmation and restricted flags for monerod
23:43:33 <shadowfax-87[m]> DataHoarder: I am getting unused with Windows. But you are right I will try natively in Windows 10.
23:48:11 <DataHoarder> Yeah it’s just maybe not fully right to behave it like Linux when it’s half windows in there 
23:48:45 <DataHoarder> The nr_hugepages file for example is part of linux
23:48:52 <DataHoarder> the kernel