00:19:34 anyone know how to bug https://miningpoolstats.stream/monero to get p2pool in there? 00:21:09 If you want huge pages in WSL, you need to upgrade to WSL2. 00:21:09 dism.exe /online /enable-feature /featurename:VirtualMachinePlatform /all /norestart 00:21:10 wsl --set-default-version 2 00:21:10 Still don't recommend it at this point since you can compile for Windows now. 00:28:08 for https://miningpoolstats.stream/monero they have a submit form at the bottom 00:29:36 XvB: "for https://miningpoolstats.stream/monero they have a submit form at the bottom" gingeropolous I put the pool api url in there days ago. 00:30:20 squeaky wheel 00:31:18 ah. "It will be manually verified and added to the list if public API can be identified." 00:31:33 https://xmrvsbeast.com/stats_mod this is the api syntax the site expects, anything else and they will have to manually adjust to make it work properly 00:35:57 okay, so i (or someone) has to press buttons to make https://p2pool.io/api/pool/stats looks like https://xmrvsbeast.com/stats_mod 00:36:04 in the githubs 00:36:33 well wait. i dunno. 00:41:48 well if you submit a new pool with the expected api syntax it will get added quickly, otherwise not so quickly 00:42:47 ah. 00:43:42 we do need p2pool represented there, want to see it climb to the top :) 00:48:33 I imagine there will be more than 1 instance of a p2pool 00:58:05 If multiple wallet address per instance is supported then we might see others pop up 00:59:23 does p2pool need custom daemon/wallet software? or can I just use the regular ones 01:00:23 I'm trying to troubleshoot "JSONRPCRequest failed to parse response, result = 24" after trying to connect to my AUR monerod with both AUR p2pool and compiled on windows 01:03:14 yes custom monerod as per instructions linked at top of page 01:04:10 disclaimer: I have not attempted to run p2pool cause I am clueless 01:05:00 yes oyu need monerod from https://github.com/SChernykh/monero 01:07:21 and I assume there isnt an AUR package for that like there is with p2pool-git... unless its part of it 01:09:31 no, it is just p2pool, you will have to build monerod yourself, at this point 01:10:39 so the aur package only does half the work, rip 01:11:11 I made the AUR package BTW. If you have questions I can answer them. 01:11:17 Yes it is only the p2pool part. 01:12:04 pacman -S monerod cmake boost unbound gtest ccache doxygen graphviz qt5-tools 01:12:15 will give you everything you need to compile monerod 01:12:19 abberant: the only other part that needs doing is the special build of monerod. 01:12:26 just follow the instructions on the p2pool github 01:12:31 You can pull xmrig from AUR as well. 01:25:07 alright, I installed the dependencies XvB listed except for monerod cause it didnt exist, I have the monerod package since it doesnt exist, but I have the monero package so I figured it'd be fine, then I followed the rest of the steps and it looks like the compiling finished but there was some "Error" stuff even after trying to troubleshoot with resyncing dependencies and other small things, I can't seem to find where monerod would be 01:25:07 assuming it finished and didn't break 01:26:12 sorry should be monero not monerod 01:26:26 pulls in the release plus more libs you will need 01:26:52 in build/Linux/p2pool-api-v0.17/release/bin I got most of the executables but not monerod 01:27:19 so it is pacman -S monero cmake boost unbound gtest ccache doxygen graphviz qt5-tools 01:27:57 yep, got all those 01:29:09 make sure you follow the monerod build steps exactly as on the p2pool github page 01:29:25 Under the ubuntu section for monerod 01:29:35 "Warning: Could not load "/usr/lib/graphviz/libgvplugin_gdk.so.6" - It was found, so perhaps one of its dependents was not. Try ldd." 01:29:44 I get this with graphviz, it a concern? 01:30:06 Looks like it 01:30:12 then monerod is under ../monero/build/Linux/p2pool-api-v0.17/release/bin 01:30:32 XvB: yeah, it was missing in there so there must be another issue 01:31:55 some old form post says to try installing gtk2 and it fixed it so gonna try to rebuild 01:32:03 you should delete the monero git repo you have and clone fresh 01:32:10 yep 01:32:13 git clone --recursive https://github.com/SChernykh/p2pool 01:32:27 sorry, git clone --recursive https://github.com/SChernykh/monero 01:32:53 will not build properly unless exact steps used 01:33:25 I'm following the steps under "monerod binary compatible with p2pool:" under ubuntu, after installing the dependencies ofc 01:33:33 ok 01:34:01 I just did this on Arch 2 days ago but looks like submodules were added since then so maybe I should retry it. 01:35:00 what about making a pkg for p2pool-monerod? people are having issues with building it 01:35:23 now "monero/build/Linux/p2pool-api-v0.17/release/bin" is empty :/ 01:35:39 same looking errors after compile 01:35:51 How long do you think it would take for sech1's changes to be merged and released in mainline monerod? 01:36:13 it might take months for a new monerro release that includes the changes 01:36:49 I thought it would all be included in the latest... but no luck on that 01:37:00 Give me a minute and let me test to see if I get the same issues. I'll consider making another package. 01:37:41 that would be convenient for updating 01:38:02 I appreciate all of your help btw 01:38:09 or deploying new nodes 01:39:00 np, we need more miners on p2pool and it will not happen if it take 5 hours to set it up 01:40:13 are multiple block reward addresses a new thing? I assume thats why only gui/cli and monerujo support them? 01:45:32 Ok I just built monerod again and it worked for me. "ls build/Linux/p2pool-api-v0.17/release/bin/" shows all the correct binaries. 01:45:50 I'm guessing you might still be missing some dependency. 01:45:58 same 01:47:25 I'm searching to see if I can find anything. 01:47:46 I can try going through the ubuntu dependencies and see if I have the equivalents 01:49:58 I'm going to try making an AUR package for sech1's monerod to see if I can find out the full list of depends here. That way I can build it in clean chroot's that don't link back to my system libraries. 01:50:22 awesome 01:50:49 If it works I'll share it or at least give you the full dependency list so you should be able to build it. 01:51:30 keep me updated if you remember, thanks again for your community service 👍️ 01:51:40 no problemo! 01:53:00 Were you able to install p2pool with p2pool-git aur package ok abberant ? 01:53:47 yeah, I didn't have a node to connect it to obviously but it seemed fine and functioned the same as my compile on windows 01:54:39 Ok cool. I just wanted to make sure that one worked too. I think you are the first one to test it/build it besides myself so I'm glad to hear it. 01:55:19 gotta love the aur 😎 01:56:44 If you haven't heard of the "paru" tool on aur you should look into it. Really really good. 01:56:55 Makes installing anything a breeze. 01:57:52 wasnt paru featured on dt or something? 01:57:53 I've stuck with yay, but I'd honestly rather use a rust program than go 01:58:01 I'll try it out either way 01:58:30 "yay -S paru" I think should work. But I haven't used yay in so long I don't remember. 01:58:50 can you remove the binaries after makepkg? 01:59:12 I think paru has cleanup commands. But it keeps a cache around for building later. 01:59:47 so does yay, but I usually clear cache for ocd :( 02:01:43 well assuming its functionally similar if not better than yay I'm gonna switch to paru cause I hate that go dependency and I actually use rust 02:01:43 good tip 02:02:05 Yup it has been featured on the Rust and Archlinux subreddits before. That's how I learned of it. 02:04:45 abberant[m]: "are multiple block reward addresses a new thing? I assume thats why only gui/cli and monerujo support them?" early transactions used to be broken up into certain equal denominations before RingCT was implemented in order to make transactions less easy to identify by amount. At that time, coinbase transactions regularly had multiple outputs. At some point a change was made that causes wallets to only scan for 02:04:45 the first coinbase output and so the node change only reverts that change. 02:06:54 cool, thanks 02:07:14 Look at block 1024's coinbase for example: 02:07:14 https://xmrchain.net/tx/ddcd0efbcd5a0b0c1ea01c4149fb7c5d3abd796c4f0d99722ea6b07668c38c4f 02:09:51 (any block from that time period is fine. I just picked a nice round number.) 02:10:36 I learned something new 02:16:22 Have you installed base-devel, abberant ? I'm just running through different options here. I don't know if this is it. 02:16:43 looks like it 02:18:12 abberant[m]: meaning yes, I did have it, or at least It said I was reinstalling all of the packages I could see so 02:18:56 I'll try rebuilding again in a bit for fun since I screwed around with package syncing cause paru 02:20:15 Mine is building successfully even using a new PKGBUILD, but I'm not sure why it is working. I don't think I included all of the dependencies. 02:20:45 I'm guessing the submodules include dependencies it needs. 02:22:48 I'm getting off for the night but I'll be back on later. If you happen to still need help I can try and come up with something. Maybe another aur package would be helpful just to remove these types of variables. 02:23:29 alright 03:22:09 karce: It compiled successfully on one of my other home servers, I just scp'd the bin and gonna try and use those for the time being, hope it wont break 03:24:40 the other server had a very similar setup excluding hardware 03:32:05 also I can't compile p2pool manually either but aur works 03:35:34 after more inspection it looks like I'm missing a lib called gss, I remember seeing that in ubuntu packages but can't find arch equivalent 03:38:35 "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgss" << determined from this, trying to read into it more, looks like stuff with gcc and linkers that I have no clue about 03:43:49 PPLNS window = 2160 blocks (+90 uncles, 10 orphans) 03:43:52 damn 03:46:02 3 gh/s again 03:46:28 can you guys ease up a bit? i'm still stacking over here 04:17:42 libgss, required for p2pool is not in arch repo nor in aur 04:17:53 get it @ https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gss/ 04:18:27 extract, run ./configure && make && sudo make install 04:19:10 echo "export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib" >> ~/.bashrc && source ~/.bashrc 04:19:10 well I shouldnt have to worry about it with the p2pool aur package, I spent time trying to remedy that only to find out that its not the same issue with the monerod compile :/ 04:19:50 monerod didnt compile on my old amd system either, I don't have a large enough sample size to determine if it has something to do with hardware or software 04:20:31 and the xmrig wouldnt connect to my p2pool connected to my monerod, but I assume thats a seperate issue 04:20:31 all of it is just... a tangle 04:21:38 woah did I just get monerod to compile on the main system? 04:21:59 I didn't even do anything, this is adding to the confusion........ 04:22:00 if oyu have less than 4gb ram compile monerod with make -j1 instead of the -j$(nproc) 04:22:38 all the machines have plenty 04:26:40 JSONRPCRequest failed to parse response, result = 24 04:26:46 ^ p2pool giving this tho 04:27:45 you sure you are running the correct monerod? make sure the version is v0.17.2.3-9c82593b5 04:27:59 what is your p2pool command line 04:28:41 yes its the correct monerod 04:30:10 XvB: the default 04:30:10 p2pool --host 127.0.0.1 --rpc-port 18081 --zmq-port 18083 --wallet YOUR_WALLET_ADDRESS --stratum 0.0.0.0:3333 --p2p 0.0.0.0:37889 --addpeers 65.21.227.114:37889 04:30:14 except with my wallet in 04:30:46 I've also tried with the host being my external ip, I've port forwarded 18080, 18081, 18083, and 37889 for testing 04:31:15 and done the startup thingy with minimal options like just my wallet address and just wallet/stratum/p2p since I think the rest are defaults 04:31:22 and my firewall is disabled for testing 04:33:22 using the custom daemon, aur p2pool, and xmrig git from aur, which also doesnt connect to the p2pool node if you couldnt guess 04:44:33 and you are starting monerod with ./monerod --zmq-pub tcp://127.0.0.1:18083 ? 04:46:26 yes, but I just found that out a few minutes ago and need to try port forwarding 18083 again just in case 04:47:15 yeah, doesn't seem to be helping 04:49:15 are you doing all of this on the same machine? or connecting to different one for monerod? 04:49:31 same machine 04:49:54 I ssh in and use screens 04:50:19 not sure then, everything looks OK, the only thing that might be messed up is the p2pool aur, I have not tried to use it yet 04:52:46 oo 04:53:05 I do have a username and password on the node actually 04:53:10 let me try to disable that 04:54:50 ok console is being spammed I assume its syncing now 😓 04:55:17 I would say that was a dumb mistake if it wasnt hidden between like 10 other problems 04:55:39 any way to login to the node with p2pool yet, probably not 04:57:31 not sure, but doubt it 04:58:02 do you know which ports I need input/output? otherwise I'll figure it out myself 05:00:49 18080 and 37889 05:04:21 is 37889 tcp in and out I assume? 05:04:42 yes 08:01:19 I've added https://p2pool.io/api/stats_mod just like xmrvsbeast has and submitted the url to https://miningpoolstats.stream/monero 08:18:43 Hmm, not sure what's happened with mine, I have updated to latest version (git pull, make), I can see it indicates in my log 08:18:43 2021-09-08 08:14:47.6770 StratumServer SHARE FOUND: mainchain height 2444780, diff 100000, effort 100.001% 08:18:43 but my status reads 08:18:43 SideChain status 08:18:43 Main chain height = 2444782 08:18:43 Main chain hashrate = 2.917 GH/s 08:18:44 Side chain height = 68717 08:18:44 Side chain hashrate = 40.671 MH/s 08:18:45 PPLNS window = 2160 blocks (+86 uncles, 0 orphans) 08:18:45 Your shares = 0 blocks (+0 uncles, 0 orphans) 08:18:46 Block reward share = 0.000% (0.000000000000 XMR) 08:18:46 I was getting a fairly regular payout with 2 on 03, 1 on 04, 3 on 05 and 5 on 06 but suddenly seems to have stopped, with nothing yesterday 08:20:37 share with diff 100000 can be discarded, it's not a real one 08:21:13 these shares get found when you restart p2pool node and it's not synced yet 08:21:57 ah OK, fair enough 09:02:40 current seed list on seeds.p2pool.io are 65.21.227.114, 168.119.137.28 09:02:51 nice to have more than one seed now and a way to update them 09:29:13 The seeds can only be used for default sidechain 09:29:24 Also they must use default port 37889 and have it open 09:29:35 and have a fast Internet connection 09:29:59 yup, saw 09:30:17 hopefully also static ips :) 09:30:19 the second seed is from xmrig 09:30:30 oh? nice 09:35:12 if someone else here hosts a fast node in a datacenter, I can add it 09:36:29 thinking about it, have two running already on a cluster but they don't have the ability to open ports 09:36:45 I'll get back once a third one is setup 09:52:27 where can I see the current monero tx fee? 09:53:29 for the pool or what you transact? 09:54:16 transaction 09:58:07 xmrchain.net 09:58:16 Fee per byte: 0.000000005821 10:02:24 If you combine multiple p2pool payouts together (N inputs/2 outputs tx), the resulting tx will use ~512 bytes per input, fee will be 0.8% of your mined funds in the worst case (all payouts are ~0.0004 XMR) 10:04:00 if you move just one 0.0004 XMR payout, fee will be ~2%. But I don't see a point of moving such small amount. 10:04:50 if you get bigger payouts on average, fees will be proportionally smaller % 10:05:07 p2pool payouts themselves have 0 XMR fee 10:07:00 but I cant controll the payout right? 10:10:09 No 10:18:54 if anyone needs a monerod node compat with p2pool, p2pmd.xmrvsbeast.com 10:19:59 XvB https://p2pool.io/api/stats_mod does it look correct? 10:20:09 how long until miningpoolstats adds it? 10:20:42 Like 2 days I think 10:20:55 "automated" my ass 10:21:06 they should have FAQ for pool admins, with API examples 10:22:08 I just looked at one of the existing pools stats pages and copied 10:22:43 when the pools are offline or not responding it the site shows what api url is being used 10:23:41 heh, we are at 42 MH/s 10:24:34 its funny to see new miners crying about the xmrig minimum 1% fee and telling us that they won't join monero and tell us to go to nice places 10:26:29 you can compile it yourself and put it to 0%, and just donate whenever you like to the devs 10:29:45 its too conventient to download the pre-built binaries 10:30:49 XvB well, I copied supportxmr API because I know their API url, but it didn't help 10:30:52 wait what, gminer and cryptodredge arent open-source? 10:31:08 almost every miner is not open-source 10:31:43 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 10:32:05 okay that im mad about, the forced 1% fee 10:32:24 I'll have to learn binary reverse-engineering then and remove it that way 10:33:58 you can kind of get around it by some /etc/hosts manipulation to forward fee host to yourself :) 10:35:19 ah yes, the trickster 10:35:42 also how can i use this site? http://workers.xmrig.info/ 10:35:58 what attribute i need to pass to xmrig 10:35:59 you need to add workers there via what you configure on xmrig 10:36:18 port to bind to for api, and access token if you provided one mightysnowman 10:36:39 see https://xmrig.com/docs/miner/command-line-options#api 10:36:58 probably also need --http-no-restricted 10:41:03 how to generate the token for it 10:41:27 config doesnt specify anything about it but random gibberish in the config as token gives errors 10:53:31 mightysnowman: set anything random? 10:54:04 here have one, randomness as a service mightysnowman : f50rPvRnOLQpqdDIftbCLaqkOSnYl8Z6udK0yTH9PvLSP4CqBr8Akm28t4QT6KN 10:54:22 would recommend you generate your own 10:57:14 oh deem nvm, I was missing " " xd 10:57:36 the token wasnt the problem 11:08:31 XvB: might use that node as a test, thanks 11:09:00 sure, that is why I put it up ;) 11:10:37 got a few of my own but bootstraping new nodes takes a bit 11:14:02 2021-09-08 10:12:06.319 E Transaction spends at least one output which is too young 11:14:10 wat is this daemon log 11:14:22 just checks working proper 11:15:02 it's related to transactions in monero mempool 11:17:07 how long does it take for the miners amount on p2pool site to update 11:19:12 was going to check if im properly connected by checking the p2pool worker count increasing 11:26:48 I believe that depends on different shares in current PPLNS threshold mightysnowman 11:27:16 oh okay 11:29:55 nice, super low effort block 2444888 11:31:22 0.35% nice 11:31:34 last lowest was 3.60% 11:31:46 wait, 20m, 3m, 2m ago? 11:31:49 three nice blocks 11:34:48 was 2444888 actually accepted? 11:35:04 I am seeing: P2Pool submit_block: daemon returned error: 'unknown error', template id = 0, nonce = 0, extra_nonce = 0 11:35:15 no :( 11:35:46 it was ee4110829b5422ec8d49be1357cb6aefd6094887c2642090443d3cb4e83cf870 11:35:57 https://xmrchain.net/search?value=2444888 11:36:10 no nvm 11:36:12 yes 11:36:18 lol 11:36:21 got wrong hash 11:38:52 is p2pool paying off for people with like under 10kh/s? 11:40:25 it should average out at same payment rate as a pool 11:40:44 2444888 seems to be fine 11:42:10 p2pool.io is showing wrong hash for block 2444888 ? 11:43:08 should be 90c511bccf92dd47a345ac33ba60828bd4efb9f5a7167fbe7086e9219c87b752 I think 11:43:19 4d894506da72cfa8de4a2f806edb8af977ca6eb384e47a86d41f45e3315b556f 11:43:29 check on xmrchain.net 11:43:43 oh sorry that the tx hash 11:45:47 is anyone with Apple M1 here? 11:47:38 abberant: Good to hear you were able to compile. I removed libgss from the AUR package cmakelist because arch doesn't have it, or maybe it does with libgssglue. Didn't seem to affect the build though. I should have probably remembered that. 11:49:52 "No. Brew doesn’t like M1 Macs." someone stated in xvb subreddit 11:50:35 https://www.reddit.com/r/xmrvsbeast/comments/pj5k9w/p2pool_success/hc0bvk6/ 11:50:52 https://github.com/SChernykh/p2pool/issues/14 11:51:15 someone at least built it successfully 11:52:22 oh ok 11:53:37 but RandomX needs fixing. xmrig fixed it long time ago, but there are too many differences to just copy-paste the fix 11:53:48 and I don't have M1 to test 11:54:57 I think hyc compiled it on M1 too but he had other problems with it 11:55:24 He was getting a lot of rejects. 12:01:26 Peer list size = 61, people connecting but not mining... 12:03:03 hmm? connecting to monerod or p2pool 12:03:22 p2pool 12:04:00 Peer list size = 60 12:04:14 new SideChain blocks are coming 12:05:04 ohh 12:05:15 that's quite a few blocks mined in a short period 12:05:20 once every 2-5s 12:05:55 I have not found a single share in 2 days :( the diff is killing me 12:06:09 Set a manual diff 12:06:16 won't do mandelbug 12:06:26 difficulty of side chain cannot be changed 12:06:32 will still not find shares 12:06:43 what is your expected "solo mining" time CzarekNakamoto[m 12:07:05 I set my diff in xmrig and am finding shares. used HR*30 to calculate 12:07:07 take that and divide by 2160, that should more or less be your expected average time 12:07:10 2.5 days with 2 kh/s 12:07:14 to find a pool share 12:07:26 yes mandelbug you find shares but not SHARE FOUND on p2pool for all those 12:07:29 aka 12:07:41 doesn't get added to PPLNS window 12:07:51 but it reports nicely yes 12:08:08 p2pool difficulty is ~850 times smaller than Monero network diff, so divide solo time by 850 12:09:07 DataHoarder: 5.4 years 12:09:08 we will need a L3 p2pool solution that allows miners to pool HR to find p2pool shares 12:09:27 ;) 12:09:29 if this is correct: https://www.monero.how/monero-mining-calculator 12:09:30 that is for entire pool sech1, not for individual miners right? I mean the time they might find a share in this pool 12:10:25 it's the time to find a p2pool share (850 times less than to find a Monero block solo) 12:10:35 so ~3 days 12:11:00 Is changing the difficulty on client side affect the actual shares that are found? 12:11:12 no CzarekNakamoto[m, just smoother reporting 12:11:30 ah right, that math would only apply if the entire network was in p2pool right sech1 ? 12:11:53 also yay height 70000 on sidechain 12:14:12 and btw sech1, seed node on 13.69.194.86:37889 https://p2pool-seed.northeurope.cloudapp.azure.com/ 12:15:03 what's the connection bandwidth there? 12:17:19 Is 20mbps enough for a node or no? 12:17:46 if yes `192.243.103.185:37889` is also available 12:18:58 static IP as well 12:19:15 sech1: azure, checking the precise numbers, one sec. inbound shouldn't be limited 12:23:37 should be 1000/1000 sech1 12:24:01 static ip, but also p2pool-seed.northeurope.cloudapp.azure.com points to it 12:26:48 so 13.69.194.86:37889 ? 12:27:20 yes, correct 12:28:24 ok, added 12:28:47 will be up for the foreseeable future 12:31:40 growing disk size of it, forgot to do it :^) 12:41:19 sech1: how is this software different from Bitcoin p2p pool mining? 12:41:33 it's for Monero :) 12:41:47 (and other differences, it's made from scratch) 12:41:56 Yep I know all that 12:42:07 Bitcoin p2pool is old and written in Python 12:42:16 and it doesn't have uncle blocks 12:42:21 Interesting 12:42:32 uncle blocks are nice given 10s sidechain block times 14:23:46 How long does it usually take to build monerod for Windows...? following instructions from github and it's been like 30mins. (Like 87% done). 14:24:26 it takes a while unless you select only monerod target, but that's advanced 14:24:50 also check RAM to see it's not going to swap 14:25:52 DataHoarder Yeah it's building everything not just monerod. I'll just be patient. Seems to be doing it's thing... just weird cause I built for linux on low spec VPS in like 3mins lol. 14:26:13 maybe you did not build dependencies as well QuickBASIC 14:26:18 but just the monero part 14:26:53 while windows needs all the dependencies 14:27:00 thank packaging systems :) 14:27:45 Ah that makes sense actually. 14:29:47 yeet found my first share 14:30:05 after total of 24 hours 14:30:09 Gratz. 14:30:33 worth 0.0003xmr 14:31:00 meanwhile I could've earned 0.0033 every 24 hours on any other pool 14:31:12 I've been mining 36 hours or so with 4.1 kH/s and haven't gotten any in that time. My last share was days ago. 14:31:36 seems unfair so far, let's see if it 'evens out' after some weeks 14:32:19 mightysnowman: "worth 0.0003xmr" keep in mind that you can get that payout multiple times from a single share. Assuming we find multiple blocks in the PPLNS window before your share expires. 14:32:40 we'll see 14:33:13 I got 6Kh/s and running it a couple days now. 0.004 xmr in rewards. 14:33:13 The other day I got three payouts from a single share because the pool found three blocks within 6 hours. 14:33:19 People need to stop worrying so much about variance. 14:33:38 The current p2pool hashrate is relatively low so variance will be a bit all over the place until it grows. 14:33:43 worth nothing yet till a block is mined indeed mightysnowman 14:33:53 Over the long-haul it will statistically average out, always. 14:34:08 not worried about variance much, yep, averages 14:34:14 You will earn the same (theoretically more due to lower fees) using p2pool as any large centralized pool. 14:34:25 lucky here that since I started p2pool I have gotten payouts on each block mined 14:34:42 though right now getting some awful luck with my shares 14:35:20 my shares are usually late and pool gets unlucky and then again I get a share D: 14:35:26 but eh, it's an experiment 14:36:02 well, it's a working experiment, the best kind of experiment 14:37:35 like, personal effort% currently is 728% 14:38:48 sorry, I took all your luck :P 14:38:50 https://paste.debian.net/hidden/4532e490/ 14:39:02 had nice luck the other day anyhow 14:42:39 LULS 14:42:42 talk of the devil 14:42:48 just found 3 shares back to back 14:43:15 StratumServer SHARE FOUND: mainchain height 2444978, diff 398471624, effort 16.063% 14:43:15 StratumServer SHARE FOUND: mainchain height 2444979, diff 398360913, effort 1.883% 14:45:07 Pretty good luck so far today :)... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/a176721673b5a41fe3b7df808cae15362846869c) 14:45:51 StratumServer SHARE FOUND: mainchain height 2444979, diff 399528341, effort 10.138% 14:45:52 hah 14:45:54 4 back to back 14:46:06 awww yisss 14:46:24 foreshadowing of 300% effort 14:46:27 Why is the diff there so low Seth ? 14:49:35 Hmm, could have been false shares while syncing, I did just switch to a new host 14:49:49 But I'm also setting custom diffs for workers and not sure if that gets reflected there 14:50:10 exactly jaska087 14:50:17 Ah, yeah, fake shares. 14:50:30 yeah while syncing ones 14:50:35 Good shares from other host before switching:... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/533698a7de8fe1809bc4810d255359c51047bd8d) 14:50:36 look at the big numbers 14:50:45 Yeah. 14:50:47 yep, those are proper 14:50:50 Didn't catch that before :) 14:51:24 Yeah that one looks right. That's sortof what I have. 14:51:34 shame that while I am finding some now it was like 4h without shares, some got trimmed already :< 14:51:41 all about averages 14:51:54 yup 14:52:47 110 shares so far :) 14:53:59 `202312:NOTICE 2021-09-07 06:58:26.9432 StratumServer SHARE FOUND: mainchain height 2444019, diff 324171014, effort 110.841% 14:53:59 280185:NOTICE 2021-09-08 03:05:14.0630 StratumServer SHARE FOUND: mainchain height 2444643, diff 383619554, effort 117.696% 14:53:59 308548:NOTICE 2021-09-08 10:22:47.1630 StratumServer SHARE FOUND: mainchain height 2444853, diff 423796145, effort 37.561% 14:53:59 ` 14:54:31 * `202312:NOTICE 2021-09-07 06:58:26.9432 StratumServer SHARE FOUND: mainchain height 2444019, diff 324171014, effort 110.841% 14:54:31 280185:NOTICE 2021-09-08 03:05:14.0630 StratumServer SHARE FOUND: mainchain height 2444643, diff 383619554, effort 117.696% 14:54:31 308548:NOTICE 2021-09-08 10:22:47.1630 StratumServer SHARE FOUND: mainchain height 2444853, diff 423796145, effort 37.561% ` 14:58:39