00:01:26 <aresouls> hey all... i started using the p2pool software...im pretty sure i got it working but is there a command or a button somewhere to make the withdrawl or does it just show up when it gets to .0004?
00:01:52 <abberant[m]> it just shows up
00:02:13 <aresouls> awesome thanks
00:53:58 <DataHoarder> It does not “get” to 0.0004 aresouls but whenever you have a share in the window and a block is found, part of the reward goes to you automatically 
00:54:36 <DataHoarder> different way compared to custodial centralized pools, but it averages out to the same amount in the end given pure pool with only Monero mining :)
00:55:27 <DataHoarder> There is no pool “wallet” or “persona balance” to account, everything is paid out in the blocks themselves 
01:05:45 <abberant[m]> ^
01:16:21 <aresouls> does that  mean that if i have found 1000 shares so for they should have shown up in my wallet in the last 4 or so hours?
01:18:32 <abberant[m]> aresouls: pretty sure you get paid out if you've submitted a share in the last 6 hours everytime p2pool finds a block, might have to have relatively made 0.0004
01:34:30 <aresouls> https://p2pool.io/#pool is where im gettint the .0004 from as a min payout but im using an old gaming rig to mine from so im only getting 1300hr/s and guessing i will have to wait a day to get up to .0004 or do i need to be able to mine .0004 per block to reach the minimum then? theres also a very real possibility i did stuff wrong 
01:37:20 <abberant[m]> aresouls: whatever the case is, you will be rewarded for all work just as a normal mining pool, though you might get inconsistent payouts because of luck, it will average out over a larger time scale
01:37:39 <abberant[m]> so I wouldnt worry about it as long as youre getting payouts 
01:40:49 <aresouls> but thats just it im not getting the payouts... nothing has shown up in the wallet yet after four hours
01:42:31 <xmrvsbeast[m]> there have been 0 blocks mined in the last 3 hours, no blocks no payout
01:42:57 <QuickBASIC> Hey aresouls, the way it works is that you get "shares" that make you eligible to get a part of a block when it's mined. So even if you have shares if the pool doesn't find a block yet, no payout.
01:43:11 <QuickBASIC> Ah XvB beat me to it.
01:44:22 <aresouls> ha im an idiot... thought the last block was more recently but just hit refresh
01:45:04 <QuickBASIC> did you register with the bot? You can type .status to see your shares or .payout to see your payouts.
01:45:11 <QuickBASIC> .block
01:45:13 <xmrvsbeast[m]> as long as your p2pool stratum status is showing activity and your miner is reporting accepted shares you should be good, and make sure monerod is happy, let it rip for 48 hrs and see where you stand 
01:45:15 <QuickBASIC> .last
01:45:22 <QuickBASIC> Oh wrong channel lol
01:46:51 <QuickBASIC> Also, p2pool still misreports shares found under the stratumserver stats when you first start up because it's not in sync yet. So if they're showing there, but not above when you type 'status', then they're not "real" shares.
01:54:04 <aresouls> nah i didn't bother registering with the bot... my gui is active all the time so it should just show up there whenever.... lol no need to feed my already bad ocd with yet another counter 
02:13:37 <EDad> aresouls: It's well worth registering with the bot.  You get notified when you get share so you can spend your time doing things other than staring at consoles and such. It will also give you a visual of the window and the position of your share(s) so it clarifies if you have payment coming when a block is found.
02:14:28 <EDad> I have my mobile client set to play different sounds when a block or share is found. So nice :)
02:17:08 <EDad> Plus... it's fun to show others when you've hit the raffle and you have lot's of shares in the window itching to be in your wallet.
03:02:44 <abberant[m]> <EDad> "aresouls: It's well worth..." <- what's "the bot"? I'm interested
03:07:48 <QuickBASIC> abberant[m] join #p2pool-log on IRC to see bot output. Register with /msg lucky-bot .register address
03:08:15 <abberant[m]> ty
03:08:21 <QuickBASIC> It's not bridged to matrix though. Someone else that uses Matrix will have to tell you how to join the room from Matrix.
03:10:50 <abberant[m]> just realized that
03:11:54 <abberant[m]> there no other user friendly programs with p2pool apis?
03:26:39 <abberant[m]> oh p2pool.observer is a thing
08:32:38 <DataHoarder> abberant[m]: it.s .subscribe not .register but I can add an alias
08:32:58 <DataHoarder> can also use it via private message only, no need to join that channel unless you like extra banter or block notifications
08:33:06 <DataHoarder> and yes p2pool.observer is a thing :)
08:33:43 <DataHoarder> I should get to document its apis soon, though all the site you see is using them
13:24:32 <DataHoarder> last block found by p2pool has 40 outputs (40 different miners paid all at once!). Currently I have seen 111 known different miners
13:58:14 <hyc> good stuff
15:23:36 <sethsimmons> Did my Friday shilling of p2pool to keep that interest up 😅
15:23:36 <sethsimmons> https://twitter.com/sethforprivacy/status/1441422502094426114?s=20
15:36:07 <abberant[m]> I've found 2 shares with 30kh/s in the last 6 days, something up or am I just unlucky?
15:37:38 <abberant[m]> using monerod from the release and p2pool git so, if this keeps up I might try the release instead of git, hope its not some network problem cause those are hard to find
15:40:59 <QuickBASIC> sethsimmons, you're looking at the wrong console IMO https://twitter.com/QuickBASIC_/status/1441427306854158336
16:19:48 <sethsimmons> <QuickBASIC> "Seth For Privacy, you're looking..." <- I don't like sharing *any* wallet details, personally, but that is the more fun one :D
16:30:24 <QuickBASIC>  sethsimmons:  "I don't like sharing *any* wallet details, personally, but that is the more fun one :D" That's totally understood but it's a throwaway wallet. And all included is income on my taxes, but I'd have to be in serious tire financial need to ever consider spending these one sent to my test wallet and I definitely wouldn't go mingle it with my other funds despite Monero's privacy protections.
16:30:40 <QuickBASIC> *dire
16:31:04 <QuickBASIC> comingle. Ugh autocorrect.
16:32:47 <QuickBASIC> And I think it's important for non-technical miners to see the payouts and know that they can get payouts, because of all the recent questions that we've seen in both channels about "Why I have I've been mining
16:32:57 <QuickBASIC> And not getting any payouts"
17:04:16 <gingeropolous> 'I've been mining for 10 minutes and im not rich??!?!?!?!"
17:05:56 <jaska087> you're obviously doing something wrong gingeropolous
17:05:57 <abberant[m]> scam pool!!1!, back to minexmr
17:06:03 <jaska087> just ordered lambo
17:09:05 <jaska087> hnggg.. last payment was 13 hours ago!
18:03:58 <abberant[m]> something really is wrong, I've made $0.90 from payouts in the last week with 30kh/s, and only submitted like 2 shares at 600M diff or so
18:04:46 <abberant[m]> p2pool status gives seemingly accurate 24/hr hashrate, and its giving jobs to all my miners which all report correct client side hashrate
18:06:05 <sethsimmons> Are your monerod and p2pool up to date? Do both have plenty of connections out? Are you connected to any particular well-connected public nodes? Are clients properly mining and seeing jobs rapidly (should be every ~10s)? Is your monerod keeping up with the networks chain tip?
18:06:49 <abberant[m]> looks like I only started having problems since the release
18:07:08 <abberant[m]> I'm using the monerod from the release, and p2pool-git from the aur, which I've kept up to date
18:07:47 <abberant[m]> maybe I'll try p2pool from the release and give up convenient updates for testing
18:07:49 <abberant[m]> since this probably isnt a coincidence
18:08:30 <abberant[m]> and I always have at least 8 out connections and am getting jobs ever ~10 seconds
18:08:40 <abberant[m]> s/ever/every/
18:09:06 <sethsimmons> What does "status" in p2pool tell you about effort etc?
18:09:24 <abberant[m]> I recently restarted so let me try and look back in my log
18:14:11 * abberant[m] sent a code block: https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/db030fcc5469deb8aaf036b89a65e4d253a8aaad
18:15:43 <abberant[m]> I have a friend who's gotten a share on my node in the last day with much less hashrate (only been running for a day), so maybe I should assume there might be an issue with my p2pool
18:15:53 <abberant[m]> I'm going to try the one from the release anyways
18:16:15 <sethsimmons> It could just be bad luck, TBH, but good to double check.
18:16:58 <jaska087> even the p2pool effort is skyhigh again
18:17:09 <jaska087> probably will land multiple shares in 6-7h
18:19:05 <abberant[m]> sethsimmons: 96% of my shares were found within the first half of me mining on p2pool (before release) lol, would be some insane bad luck :(
20:09:16 <QuickBASIC> sech1 I was reading scrollback in dev and it looks like your PR was merged for ZMQ changes. Is there a timeline for the next release that would include it?
20:21:58 <sech1> No. Release happens when there are enough important changes in it, it'll probably be discussed in one of the dev meetings.
20:36:24 <nioc> QuickBASIC: they are planning on a release soon™
20:40:15 <selsta> yeap