14:58:08 <hyc> new turris omina router 2022 is sounding good. up to 16GB RAM and ARM64. https://forum.turris.cz/t/turris-omnia-2022/15995/33
14:58:43 <hyc> I could move monerod and p2pool to my router
15:01:25 <hyc> 2GHz quadcore ARM64
15:05:00 <pauliouk> damn, probably push a good 300-500h/s out of it too while its running p2pool and monerod
15:06:28 <hyc> yeah, pretty powerful for a router
15:07:12 <pauliouk> I wouldn't mind getting my hands on one of the new systems the Russians are setting up with their new ARM cpus
15:07:40 <abberant[m]> why would you want to run nodes on your router? no other home server/vps?
15:08:16 <pauliouk> its never to reason why, only to reason why not? :)
15:08:34 <DataHoarder> "router"
15:08:48 <abberant[m]> pauliouk: fair 
15:10:45 <pauliouk> https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/10/baikall_iru_arm_pcs/    8mb L3 cache on an ARM64
15:15:05 <hyc> that sounds pretty usable
15:18:19 <pauliouk> 8 core, 1.2ghz, 8mb cache. Could run a decent node and miner on one board
15:18:50 <pauliouk> and if they make them en-mass, could build a fairly decent mining net
15:19:48 <pauliouk> I imagine they'll keep the boards small, just needs somewhere to plug a monitor keyboard mouse and network into
15:21:11 <hyc> 8 core and 8MB cache is not enough cache
15:21:27 <moneromooo> Any cache is not enough cache :P
15:21:34 <hyc> lol
15:22:05 <hyc> back in the 80s and 90s my rule of thumb was a computer should have as much RAM as it can POST in 1 second
15:22:26 <hyc> deviating from that means either too much RAM for the CPU speed, or too much CPU power for the RAM
15:22:56 <hyc> these days that would be cache and not system RAM and the time unit would probably be 1 microsecond
15:23:49 <moneromooo> POST ? I can only map to boot time diagnostic.
15:23:51 <moneromooo> cs
15:24:00 <hyc> yes, power on self test
15:24:26 <moneromooo> Odd comparison. Why ?
15:24:59 <hyc> it means the CPU can read every byte of memory within X time.
15:25:27 <hyc> if your CPU had a memory bus bandwidth of 100MB/sec then you should have 100MB of RAM
15:26:03 <pauliouk> jesus, you're dating yourself a bit here hyc :P
15:26:14 <hyc> I said 80s and 90s didn't I?
15:26:24 <pauliouk> I remember maxing out a ZX81 with 128kb of ram
15:27:17 <pauliouk> also remember paying like $400 for 4MB of ram from a guy that worked at the factory
15:27:35 <pauliouk> and $800 for a 5.2GByte hard drive
15:28:07 <moneromooo> I remember getting $800 for 4 MB of RAM from someone who didn't realize hty could get it from $40...
15:28:10 <hyc> the first portable HDD I saw was a 5MB shoebox
15:28:21 <moneromooo> *getting $400
15:28:25 <moneromooo> Crap. Joke fail.
15:30:08 <gingeropolous> "POST in 1 second" is that because we used to have to watch the memory test during post? ... when we used to turn our pcs off ...
15:31:04 <gingeropolous> that always did seem to take a while... considering i had demons to slay and dos prompts to swear at
15:32:06 <hyc> yeah that too, sitting there watching it POST ..
15:52:29 <pauliouk> its almost nostaglic when you hear an old machine from the early 90's spin up
15:52:55 <pauliouk> the clicks and beeps... its almost like hearing a modem dialup for Millenials