00:08:51 <hv-bridge> <XotteiKottei> bro watch this, working nitro gen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4i40ehZwvE
07:51:07 <Inge> ^the spam of the day
14:18:14 <\x> https://i.imgur.com/OabGMEN.png
14:18:36 <\x> hyc, apparently just xmp
14:29:37 <pauliouk> hmmm not bad. Do you feel it's worth the cost?
14:56:21 <\x> pauliouk: me?
14:57:00 <pauliouk> yup
14:57:44 <pauliouk> been considering if I want to take the leap to DDR5, or do I wait for the next gen AMD processors and take a bigger leap into my bank balance for the next upgrade :)
14:59:49 <\x> pauliouk: up to you, id wait for oc reviews first though and ddr5 motherboards are so expensive currently
15:00:06 <\x> intel cpu pricing is good now, but yeah, the boards...
15:00:39 <\x> not to mention headaches of a new architecture oin its first few months
15:01:18 <pauliouk> I figured the boards would be slightly cheaper eventually since the power management happens on the DDR module itself rather than the motherboard... but I guess with it being a new tech, new board design, new fabrication... going to be a while before the prices come down to anything reasonable
15:02:03 <\x> yup
15:02:24 <\x> pauliouk: im really impressed with this memory generation leap 
15:02:57 <\x> past ddr -> 2, 2-> 3, 3->4, isnt as impressive
15:03:48 <pauliouk> I guess this is a whole new style of memory management, almost like the jump from SDRAM to DDR - only not as severe
15:06:50 <\x> yeah its way different now, a stick on ddr/2/3/4 was 64 bit per dimm, with ddr5 we go 2x32 bit per dimm
15:06:57 <\x> way better channel interleaving that way
15:07:16 <\x> and you dont need to refresh a whole 64 bit rank at a time, now you only refresh 32 bit ranks at a time
15:08:37 <pauliouk> I think I'm right in assuming at the moment, if you don't have 64bits of data on a line being sent to the CPU, the left over space is padded out with junk/blank data which in itself takes time
15:09:59 <\x> in a sense, cpu "waits" less for ram refreshes
15:10:04 <\x> i hope you get what it meant
15:10:46 <\x> pauliouk: anyway, reviews gonna be up by the 4th for intel's alderlake with ddr5
15:12:49 <sudo_ki[m]> Im looking forward to spending some rewards on a new system :)
15:14:06 <pauliouk> I'm almost just considering building another Ryzen 5 3600 rig - really happy with my current one, and the prices have dropped nicely so its like £100 less for the same machine
15:14:47 <pauliouk> unfortunately they don't have the same cheap white case in stock :/ might look into building a custom case to house the mobo's and PSUs with extra fans (not that it gets all that hot)
15:39:55 <sudo_ki[m]> Why not butcher some cheap ikea furniture ? 
15:39:57 <sudo_ki[m]> XD
15:41:07 <jaska087> Cardboard
15:43:30 <sudo_ki[m]> I've always wanted one of those frames you can get, but they're extortionate
16:05:19 <pauliouk> I was just thinking some polycarbonate sheets for the sides, some angled aluminium bars for the case structure, then stack the boards on top of each other using long spacers
17:18:54 <sech1> Top 2 pools no longer have 50+%: https://i.imgur.com/fPVIRVO.png
17:21:44 <sech1> I mean combined
17:37:06 <pauliouk> for a 2 month old pool, we've taken a heck of a chunk of the global hashrate heh
17:40:19 <jaska087> 2 main players has
17:40:21 <jaska087> ;P
17:40:33 <jaska087> We're just there for the ride
17:41:02 <sech1> so it takes 3 pools to 51%. Ideally we need to make it 4, like in Bitcoin
17:42:51 <pauliouk> or 1 pool, but that pool being p2pool :)
17:43:55 <crypto_grampy[m]> jaska087: I used to get shares 😭
17:50:28 <jaska087> Gotten x2 amount of average
17:50:36 <jaska087> slow days incoming
17:53:10 <pauliouk> I fear the same, I've solo'd about 4 shares in the last few days
17:53:21 <pauliouk> got the raffle and landed an extra 3 :)
21:48:09 <crypto_grampy[m]> praise monerochan.  grampy's eating tonight