01:14:34 <yanmaani1> hiya
01:14:44 <yanmaani1> how's p2pool adoption going?
01:14:48 <yanmaani1> and what's the main obstacles?
01:42:32 <pauliouk> the only obstacle seems to be the entry level of knowledge required... you need to run 2 or 3 files instead of just one, and this seems to put most people off 
05:03:03 <gingeropolous[m]> yeah, ima try and tackle that with integration into the GUI
07:04:02 <xmrvsbeast[m]> You will be integrating p2pool into the GUI wallet?
14:17:39 <Shay_> hey everyone
14:18:11 <Shay_> so I'm trying to set up xmr mining on a pi, it's arm7hf (32-bit), and yes I know its very inefficient and i'll get 2 hashes and all that
14:18:30 <Shay_> I set up cpuminer-multi and it's mining to an XMR pool with 1.2H/s but it's running cryptonight algo, how is this possible?
14:19:06 <selsta> use xmrig
14:19:33 <Shay_> tried, won't work, always returns "Bus error"
14:19:52 <Shay_> I even tried building it with flags I found for arm on git issues but kept getting bus error a few seconds after I started the miner
14:20:08 <selsta> how much RAM do you have?
14:20:23 <selsta> oh wait, you said pi
14:20:51 <selsta> yea there is no point in this, it doesn't have hardware accelerated AES
14:21:07 <selsta> is cpuminer-multi supposed to support randomx?
14:21:12 <Shay_> no, only cryptonight
14:21:18 <Shay_> but I'm wondering why it says 1.2H/s
14:21:53 <Shay_> and are those hashes going through? by my calc, on a 10000 diff pool could it possibly accept 1 in 9000 shares?
14:22:27 <Shay_> (I know this has no point, I've been told I'll get sub-1 hashes per second about 30 times, I want to do this and know what I'm getting into)
14:22:49 <selsta> monero doesn't use cryptonight anymore so whatever you are mining is pointless
14:23:07 <Shay_> okay
14:23:16 <Shay_> how could I sort out "Bus error"?
14:23:29 <Shay_> "free -h" on my pi returns 367Mi of free memory
14:23:47 <selsta> you need 4gb to properly mine randomx
14:23:57 <Shay_> and to "unproperly" mine it?
14:24:11 <selsta> afaik bus error can happen when the thread stack size is too small
14:24:15 <selsta> sech1 might know
14:24:30 <Shay_> hmm okay I'll wait for his response, thanks for the info anyways
14:24:50 <selsta> there is light mode which requires 256MB RAM
14:25:25 <Shay_> let me try and rebuild it, I gotta change that in config right?
14:25:44 <selsta> I don't know how to configure it in xmrig
14:25:56 <Shay_> yeah https://xmrig.com/docs/miner/randomx-optimization-guide i'll just need to change the config
14:26:02 <Shay_> I'll try it and let you know how it goes
14:45:25 <moneromooo> Bus error is usually unaligned access, can also be dereferencing unmapped memory, which can happen if your monero db is shot.
14:46:16 <moneromooo> I always forget whether modern ARM can do unaligned accesses though.
14:51:36 <hyc> no, ARM requires alignment
14:51:43 <hyc> so far only x86 is so cavalier
14:53:21 <hyc> so, 1.2H/s wasn't slow enough for you, you have to keep trying?
14:53:59 <Shay_> lmao no I was getting 1.2h/s mining to an xmr pool while setting cpuminer-multi's algo to cryptonight
14:54:20 <hyc> you will get even less than 1.2H on that box with RandomX.
14:54:33 <Shay_> I was just wondering if that could legit solve a 10000 diff share in around 3-4 hours or not
14:54:43 <Shay_> would it count as accepted shares on the pool's end?
14:54:47 <hyc> no
14:56:23 <Shay_> hmm okay
14:56:49 <Shay_> so how can I get accepted shares? even if the share diff is 10000 I theoretically should solve a share every 4 hours with 1.2h/s
14:56:59 <Shay_> so how could I mine legit randomx on the machine?
14:57:11 <hyc> on a pi with only 512MB of RAM?
14:57:16 <Shay_> yeah
14:57:29 <hyc> yeah. you'll get something like .1H/s at most.
14:58:40 <Shay_> alright thanks for the info
14:58:43 <hyc> I don't see any option for xmrig to use randomx lightmode
14:59:43 <Shay_> "RandomX light mode" at https://xmrig.com/docs/miner/randomx-optimization-guide
15:00:29 <hyc> ah ok. you might as well try that
15:00:47 <Shay_> yeah just making the files rn
15:13:40 <hyc> you prob got a bus error because it tried to mmap 2GB of memory on a 32bit machine. can never succeed.
16:25:36 <moneromooo> You *can* get such a share, the expected time to get one is long though.
16:28:16 <hyc> is the relationship linear? does 1 difficulty = 1 H/s? so a 10kH/s miner should find a share at diff=10000 in 1 second?
16:29:51 <moneromooo> Yes. Diff N means a block is valid if its pow hash is < N. Bits are all essentially independent and equiprobable.
16:30:41 <moneromooo> < or <=, I forget. Makes a difference for tiny numbers.
16:31:06 <moneromooo> So diff 1, all hashes should pass. Diff 2, 50%. Diff 3, a third.
16:31:32 <hyc> ah ok
16:32:44 <hyc> hmm. so that should be diff N means its pow hash is less than max_hash / N.
16:33:03 <hyc> <=
16:40:49 <moneromooo> er, yes :)
16:41:50 <moneromooo> So... that ought to be a hyperbola...
17:18:42 <xiden[m]> Does the p2p pool support integration with minerstat?
21:17:40 <Shay_> how come so many ppl joined at once