16:46:53 <hyc> thinking of upgrading my car stereo to this Android 12 unit https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/354342434699
16:47:00 <hyc> can mine while I'm driving
16:47:49 <hyc> 3GB RAM. use 4G to connect to my home p2pool node
16:52:21 <hyc> or this one, similar specs https://www.ebay.ie/itm/354300480362
17:52:48 <merope> I'm not sure about the magnitude of the overall efficiency of the energy conversion from the chemical fuel to usable electricity, but given the rising costs of fuel lately I'd be inclined to say it would not be profitable at all...
17:55:08 <merope> So unless you have an electric/hybrid car that you can recharge at a lower $/kWh rate than you would pay at home, you would be literally burning money to do it
17:57:11 <merope> And driving range
17:57:45 <hyc> the car radio is on all the time while I drive anyway
17:59:48 <hyc> a car alternator puts out 1000W once your engine is up to 2500rpm.
18:01:04 <merope> Right, but adding more load means burning more fuel
18:01:26 <hyc> true. I'd have to drive around for a while and measure the difference
18:01:45 <hyc> not worse than running the air conditioner I suspect
18:01:48 <merope> Though given the low power of these devices, we're probably in the order of magnitude of "burn 1$ to make 0.1$ back, per month"
18:02:35 <hyc> right, the CPU itself won't account for more than a couple watts. the stereo amp at 50-100W per channel will eat more
18:02:42 <merope> (Not to mention the decrease in responsiveness when using other features of those devices)
18:02:45 <hyc> I suspect the difference will be unmeasurable
18:03:16 <hyc> it's an 8-core chip, prob not enough cache for more than 1 or 2 threads. responsive ness with the other 6 cores will be fine
18:03:48 <moneromooo> An 8 core chip for a car stereo. Jesus fucking christ...
18:03:58 <hyc> lol
18:05:40 <hyc> I could plug in a USB flash drive or a SDcard and run a fullnode on it :P
18:06:50 <hyc> 3GB RAM seems a weird number to ship with but whatever
18:07:23 <merope> Now *that* would be an interesting application... talk about an "unstoppable" node
18:07:41 <merope> At least as long as your carrier doesn't pwn you, that is
18:08:34 <hyc> but it wouldn't be running 24/7, only when I drive. not very useful overall
18:09:54 <moneromooo> You'd need to run it on a boomer for a really unstoppable node. Though they probably don't have a stereo. Too conspicuous...
18:10:07 <hyc> a boomer?
18:10:13 <moneromooo> SLBM
18:10:32 <moneromooo> Those subs that launch nukes
18:10:58 <hyc> heh. I wonder if they have internet while submerged
18:11:27 <hyc> I would expect most of the time they run radio silent
18:11:31 <moneromooo> Doubtful. Not that long ago they needed to get close to the surface and trail a cable to receive.
18:11:37 <moneromooo> And they don't send.
18:11:45 <moneromooo> So no TCP.
18:11:49 <hyc> right
18:12:21 <hyc> I've been thinking we ought to have a multicast txn/block distribution protocol
18:12:33 <hyc> pure UDP, passive receivers
18:12:51 <moneromooo> Well, on WAN, multicast is really a fig leaf for duplicate it all, isn't it ?
18:13:29 <hyc> for a submarine that doesn't want to give away its existence, yeah, it'd be a straight broadcast
18:14:02 <hyc> otherwise, clients explicitly join multicast groups, which means they tell their routers what they're interested in, and propagation is selective
18:15:43 <hyc> of course none of this is useful if you can't ask for transmissions that you missed while offline
18:17:39 <moneromooo> I suppose there could be transmitters that specialize on AM broadcasting for the last 6 months worth of blocks in a loop...
18:18:35 <moneromooo> So if you're deep for < 6 months, you can always sync back. Though tbh, a boomer doesn't care :) Low enough bandwidth with the trailing cable.
18:18:43 <moneromooo> Allegedly.
18:19:13 <moneromooo> Though progress I guess, who knows what they can do now.
18:23:13 <hyc> heh yeah not really seeing the relevant use case for a boomer
18:25:13 <moneromooo> Obviously, you get a signed on chain message telling you "launch" :P
18:25:21 <hyc> the bitcoin satellite is prob a good idea. uplink from a remote mountain top, to a constellation of solar-powered satellites
18:26:04 <moneromooo> Agreed, for an at risk node. It does depend on the network as a whole not to be fractured though. As does everything else.
18:38:35 <merope> <moneromooo> "Obviously, you get a signed on..." <- "Do we have a launch command?" "Hold on sir, we're syncing! 2 hours left..."
18:51:37 <moneromooo> 20 confirmations, sir. Good enough for mass murder ?
18:52:59 <moneromooo> (narrator voice: what then happens depends on whether this is a US, Russian or Chinese boomer)
22:49:36 <kinghat[m]> only cool if your head unit can mine AND stop bullets