15:08:24 <inge> What is this about RX changes that give "free" hashes to AMD cpu's ? 
15:22:32 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> Why are we giving amd a advantage ?
15:26:13 <tevador> We are not giving them an advantage. We are removing a disadvantage they currently have.
15:29:00 <inge> ach so
15:59:56 <sech1> What amd advantage? https://xmrig.com/benchmark/1
16:00:04 <sech1> Intel is faster in RandomX, they just don't have enough cache
16:02:21 <inge> Any updated info on the Bitmain monero "asic" miner? Was it risc-v based?
16:03:04 <sech1> It's only speculations based on Bitmain's "risc-v" claim in their advertisements
16:03:36 <sech1> I haven't seen an X5 teardown yet
16:04:41 <sech1> But using a risc-v cpu for RandomX makes a lot of sense. No license fees.
16:34:01 <hyc> hm, crypto extension spec is finalized, I wonder if they might've implemented them anyway
16:34:02 <hyc> https://wiki.riscv.org/display/HOME/Scalar+Crypto+Standardization+Status+Summary
17:04:24 <sech1> hyc this question = did they use some stock risc-v cpu (xuantie c910), or not 🤷‍♂️
17:09:22 <inge> risc-V being great at RX is cool by me. I'd like to see more risc-v traction in general :D
17:39:30 <sech1> risc-v is just an instruction set. It does have all instructions required (although some of them are not in the regular rv64gc).
17:39:41 <sech1> Great or not great depends on implementation (actual cpu)
18:02:12 <paulio_uk> we still not had a single person here buy one of them to see whats in it? in fact, has no one bought one and tore it down yet?
18:07:40 <paulio_uk> has a single unit even shipped yet?
18:14:05 <paulio_uk> Most of the listings I've seen for it all mention "Images for illustrative purposes only, actual product may differ". But they all seem to be around the same size package, not far off a mini atx case.
18:15:02 <paulio_uk> air cooled, 2x140mm fans in, 2x140mm fans out, and a separate bank of 60-80mm fans for the PSU. 200~240v at upto 20A
18:17:08 <paulio_uk> as the hardware porn sech1 posted the other day shows, there's a carrier board for up to 7 of the Lichee A4 compute modules. If I was building a POC it'd be with off the shelf parts, lodged into a chassis I had available
18:19:54 <inge> didn't they claim everyone was sold out?
18:22:53 <m-relay> <p​olar9669:matrix.org> Bulk of it must be bought by resellers
18:32:38 <tevador> It's been close to 3 weeks since the announcement. There hasn't been a single unboxing/review with a real unit?
18:53:15 <paulio_uk> smells like suss to me
18:57:45 <sech1> I only found this: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/pNjbB1Z_Gl8
19:23:23 <paulio_uk> noisy thing
21:03:04 <tevador> That looks like a generic ASIC miner, could be anything.
22:23:37 <gingeropolous_> ive tried ordering one. I'll see if it comes