09:51:14 So I just read a paper on this chip and am very disappointed to learn that it's a competitor for a Cortex-A73 and is intended for mobile devices, NOT a desktop pc. 09:51:23 That... is so much less interesting 09:55:21 Apparently the architecture will be used to make multicore server processors... next 09:56:49 Also: 09:56:55 "The core supports Alibaba’s proprietary RISC-V Turbo extensions that enable faster bit operations, memory access, multi-core synchronization, memory management, and cache improvements. The company claims that, depending on the workload, its extensions provide up to 20% performance improvements." 09:58:11 So... the good thing about R5 is that it's an open ISA. That's the draw of it. Alibaba decided to make extensions to the format that are proprietary... which is great for them if they manufacture thousands of these things for *themselves*, but for everyone else it means you're now on Alibaba's proprietary train 09:59:02 This... may be the chip that Chinese hyperscalers want, but it is NOT the chip that freedom lovers want 15:28:17 Is intel and amd proprietary? 15:30:47 yes. Intel and AMD are both producing x86_64 cpus which are based on a combination of proprietary patents that have been placed by both amd and intel. Mainly x86 from intel and its 64bit extension AMD64 from AMD.