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10:59:39 <gingeropolous> [13:18:25] there was one of these months ago... 3-4 days of heavy blocks
10:59:39 <sethsimmons> [13:19:17] I don't remember one this drastic, aka a doubling of TX volume.
10:59:39 <sethsimmons> [13:19:39] Oddly this has no outsized proportion of 16-output transactions, so if it is an attack it's a poor one.
10:59:39 <jberman[m]> [13:21:07] 16 output tx’s would make it extremely obvious it’s an attack. This leaves it a bit more ambiguous at least
10:59:39 <sethsimmons> [13:21:17] For sure.
10:59:39 <sethsimmons> [13:21:35] But it's still obvious something odd is happening, without the benefit to them of using 16-output TXs.
10:59:39 <sethsimmons> [13:21:48] Seems like the worst of both worlds if it is an attack.
10:59:39 <jberman[m]> [13:22:03] True
10:59:39 <jberman[m]> [13:33:54] For more color on divide by 0 bug, it requires an average of >120 outputs per block over a trailing 12 month period. Before this up-tick, it was around 63. This is why I say it seems a long way off. It just does not strike me as the likely attack vector considering how long it would take and how easy the mitigation is
10:59:39 <sethsimmons> [13:35:22] Good to know that's not as easily triggered as I was thinking.
10:59:39 <jberman[m]> [13:38:47] The benefit is also super low, clients just need a patch to get tx's to construct. Cost-benefit it doesn't make much sense to me. FloodXMR makes more sense to me
10:59:39 <sethsimmons> [13:40:29] Flood makes more sense from an adversary seeking to reduce the effectiveness of Monero (i.e. nation-state. LE), div0 makes more sense for an attack trying to give Monero bad PR/hurt it's rep (i.e. FUK)
10:59:39 <lithiumpt> [13:46:09] wasn't the last peak related to binance's withdrawal suspension of xmr?
10:59:39 <lithiumpt> [13:47:24] read on reddit that there have been withdrawing issues this week too
10:59:39 <lithiumpt> [13:47:36] maybe they've opened the flood gates again?
10:59:39 <jberman[m]> [13:48:06] I would think FloodXMR would also be damaging for PR, and there isn't a short-term ready-to-go dead simple mitigation for it. Both also seem to require a similar amount of tx volume to do some damage from my view. So FloodXMR seems to have a much more practical benefit for the cost
10:59:39 <jberman[m]> [13:48:06] In theory it could also be someone looking to try both for maximal damage
10:59:39 <sethsimmons> [13:51:24] Vast majority of transactions are still the normal 1-in/2-out and 2-in/2-out: https://pooldata.xmrlab.com/
10:59:39 <volantaryism1[m]> [15:10:46] Seth: do you think this has any relation to the 4k transactions that got spammed within 1 hour a month or so ago?
10:59:39 <sethsimmons> [15:11:37] <volantaryism1[m] "Seth: do you think this has any "> I don't think so, that was not sustained and likely just due to the Binance withdrawal issues.
10:59:39 <utxobr[m]> [16:30:32] i thought maybe a large dnm exited, but, doesn't seem to be the case either
10:59:39 <carrington[m]> [07:33:56] Reminder that there is a -community meeting in less than 12 hours to give/receive updates on the work of various workgroups such as MRL
10:59:39 <carrington[m]> [07:33:56] https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/588
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