06:11:45 <geonic> Got this message from someone on Reddit... https://i.imgur.com/XPoWkgu.png any advice I can give, other than not to churn?
07:48:49 <slave_blocker2> hello, good day :)
08:05:40 <slave_blocker2> I am currently still translating zero to monero to portuguese. It is not only translating but also exposing the protocol the best i can in verbatim terms.
08:05:40 <slave_blocker2> One of the things i want to explain is gamma...
08:05:40 <slave_blocker2> In the pedersen commitments it is said :
08:05:40 <slave_blocker2> H = 8 ∗ to point(H_n (G))
08:05:40 <slave_blocker2> This implies that there is a γ such that :
08:05:42 <slave_blocker2> H = γG .
08:05:44 <slave_blocker2> And there is no monerian that knows γ .
08:05:46 <slave_blocker2> Because it is calculated through a hash function...
08:05:48 <slave_blocker2> I would like to expose the implications os knowing γ .
08:05:50 <slave_blocker2> I was told that knowing γ lets you forge xmr. This is, 
08:05:52 <slave_blocker2> print xmr out of thin air.
08:05:54 <slave_blocker2> Can someone help me please ?
08:05:56 <slave_blocker2> I am very persistent and i am already finished with the translation, except 
08:05:58 <slave_blocker2> footnotes and lifting semantic errors here and there. 
09:22:41 <midipoet> geonic: why would you propose to not churn?
12:29:14 <RingCT> imagine unironically advising people against churning. shake my head.
15:03:47 <UkoeHB> slave_blocker2 if you know gamma then you can create a commitment to any arbitrary amount. The balance proof basically becomes meaningless
16:23:06 <Palladionhehim[m> Question: for p2pool? Hypothetically speaking, what would be the risk of p2pool having a 51% hash rate, since the pool is decentralized, would it prevent attackers from highjacking the chain?
16:23:22 <Palladionhehim[m> I'm unsure how p2pool works in general on a technical level so I'm curious
16:28:48 <hyc> in p2pool every miner constructs their own blocks, so even if the pool is at 51%, it doesn't give unified control
16:30:45 <hyc> using p2pool, instead of worrying about entire pools having 51% hash rate, the threat would have to be from a single miner having majority hash rate.
16:31:11 <hyc> much harder for a single entity to pull off
16:36:42 <Palladionhehim[m> <hyc> "using p2pool, instead of..." <- Interesting, I'm guessing if one miner had that hash rate then all of the shares would go to that miner
16:36:54 <Palladionhehim[m> Which would give them control
16:38:04 <hyc> something like that yes, that's the meaning of "51% attack"
16:39:30 <hyc> obviously much easier to subvert the management of 3 large pools than to take control of thousands of individual miners
19:50:57 <geonic> midipoet: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/oz69hf/churning_why_is_too_much_detrimental_to_privacy/h801b9f/
21:23:46 <dangerousfreedom> Hello guys, Im getting crazy with a 'basic' issue here. I cant print the transaction_prefix in this function here:
21:23:46 <dangerousfreedom> https://github.com/monero-project/monero/blob/a9cb4c082f1a815076674b543d93159a2137540e/src/cryptonote_basic/cryptonote_format_utils_basic.cpp
21:23:46 <dangerousfreedom> Basically, I want to get the hex value of the 's.str().data()' so I can be sure of what is passed to the hash function. Thank you for the help!!