00:13:29 <endogenic> UkoeHB: jberman[m] i assume you two have seen this but thought i'd ask https://thecharlatan.ch/Monero-Unlock-Time-Privacy/
00:36:14 <UkoeHB> yes
00:42:42 <endogenic> oh yeah you replied to it on gh
00:42:51 <endogenic> ukoe the legend :)
01:20:48 <jberman[m]> it seems like there is decent support to deprecate plaintext timelocks in the hard fork after next, and hidden timelock design still up in the air pending L2 research. this is the GH issue for reference for others: https://github.com/monero-project/research-lab/issues/78
01:21:13 <jberman[m]> atomic swaps/L2 research*
03:50:48 <kinghat[m]> <gingeropolous> "locha mesh" <- ya whatever became of that? this was just posted from defcon: https://youtu.be/9opTlr5TPsA
03:51:54 <kinghat[m]> * ya whatever became of that? this was just posted from def con: https://youtu.be/9opTlr5TPsA
07:17:54 <Halver[m]> <monerobull[m]> "Do we have any  research on what..." <- The density of real nodes is probably correlated with https://monerohash.com/nodes-distribution.html
07:18:12 <Halver[m]> which doesn't show too much nodes in Russia.
07:18:27 <Halver[m]> So the impact will probably be low.
10:27:00 <merope> Depends on the hashrate distribution too, though
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16:10:41 <UkoeHB> dangerousfreedom: wow very impressive
16:13:02 <dangerousfreedom> UkoeHB: Thanks. It will get better with time.
16:13:30 <UkoeHB> for key images, are you also checking the domain? (i.e. l*KI)
16:13:38 <jberman[m]> this is looking freaking sweet so far, thank you dangerousfreedom :) hope you keep going. looking forward to diving deeper into this
16:16:04 <mj-xmr[m]> Wow. Lovely.
16:16:31 <dangerousfreedom> jberman[m]: Thank you. I actually have a question for you. Some time ago you mentioned about the convertion rate of v1 txs... I still do not know what you mean. I tried to take that into consideration but as far as I know now, any v1 or v2 key_images can be part of a ring... So how could I know that the v1 transactions were actually spent?
16:17:18 <dangerousfreedom> Is it really possible to plot the convertion rate over time after v1?
16:17:58 <moneromooo> You should be able to get a lower bound at least.
16:18:15 <moneromooo> ie, when the ring amount is cleartext
16:18:43 <dangerousfreedom> moneromooo: Yeah, that's what I thought. I could guess. If there are only v1 transactions in a ring, then I can be sure, otherwise I can estimate
16:19:17 <rbrunner> dangerousfreedom: I admire your dedication and endurance. I have seen so many people never go even a single step beyond wondering about inflation.
16:19:46 <sethforprivacy> This is amazing, thanks so much for working on this dangerousfreedom!! Always good to get more eyes on the supply code/verification, and to have another great resource that walks users through it.
16:19:46 <sethforprivacy> Once you go public I'll add it to my blog post(s) on supply audits etc.
16:20:32 <dangerousfreedom> > <@sethforprivacy:matrix.optoutpod.com> This is amazing, thanks so much for working on this dangerousfreedom!! Always good to get more eyes on the supply code/verification, and to have another great resource that walks users through it.
16:20:32 <dangerousfreedom> > 
16:20:32 <dangerousfreedom> > Once you go public I'll add it to my blog post(s) on supply audits etc.
16:20:32 <dangerousfreedom> Hey Seth For Privacy . I am actually using your public node to make the queries ;) Hahaha thank you man!
16:21:27 <UkoeHB> dangerousfreedom: your key image checker also needs https://www.getmonero.org/2017/05/17/disclosure-of-a-major-bug-in-cryptonote-based-currencies.html
16:22:11 <dangerousfreedom> rbrunner: Thank you :) Working with Monero is actually what is keeping me sane lately.
16:22:36 <rbrunner> Good to hear.
16:24:50 <jberman[m]> <dangerousfreedom> "Thank you. I actually have a..." <- (total # of v1 plaintext rings used in tx.version == 2 where the outputs in the tx are RingCT outputs) / (total # of v1 plaintext outputs in the chain) == conversion rate. At each height there will be a particular conversion rate. fwiw I'm personally less interested in this than the inflation stuff you're looking into too
16:29:50 <dangerousfreedom> jberman[m]: Ok. I see. Thank you :)
16:29:50 <dangerousfreedom> I will start diving into the v2 txs and I will plot that when I have scanned the whole blockchain.
16:33:47 <jberman[m]> nay thank you dangerousfreedom ! this is so awesome
17:16:02 <BusyBoredom[m]> This is incredible. Thank you so much for putting your findings together like this so the rest of us can learn from them :) 
17:57:59 <xmr-ack[m]> dangerousfreedom: Wow awesome job, love the walkthrough of a transaction
18:26:25 <gingeropolous> awesome stuff.
20:18:21 <coinstudent2048[> dangerousfreedom: Woah... I'll help in koe's suggestion of the key image bug.
21:29:11 <dangerousfreedom> <xmr-ack[m]> "dangerousfreedom: Wow awesome..." <- Nice! Thank you.
21:30:00 <dangerousfreedom> <coinstudent2048[> "dangerousfreedom: Woah... I'll..." <- Thank you! I will publish all the code in the weekend. Any help is welcome ;)