12:56:21 <ooo123ooo12345[m> <jberman[m]> "the old shutdown sequence your..." <- Old code can be abused by unresponsive client/server. New code can't abused at all by unresponsive client/server, except T seconds still allowed for SSL shutdown in case of timer time out. Do you want to allow T seconds during connection close too ? 
12:57:10 <ooo123ooo12345[m> in `connection<T>::close() { ...; terminate(); }` replace terminate() with interrupt(), but I wouldn't do it, since the goal is to reduce opportunities to abuse as much as possible.
13:19:55 <ooo123ooo12345[m> <BusyBoredom[m]> "Unfortunately, the worst case is..." <- No. I would say completely opposite: flood of incompetent people remove any reason to pursue hard problems that are the most important obstacles for monero progress. Competent people that works honestly always ready to defend their decisions.
13:20:06 <ooo123ooo12345[m> s/works/work/
13:35:47 <ooo123ooo12345[m> <BusyBoredom[m]> "Unfortunately, the worst case is..." <- Blind support of incompetent people without any verification is much wore harmful for the goal of this project, than anything else.
13:46:08 <ooo123ooo12345[m> s/wore/more/
13:49:09 <ooo123ooo12345[m> <BusyBoredom[m]> "Unfortunately, the worst case is..." <- List all people that you count as developers and call at least 1 who is going to leave.
13:55:31 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > <@mj-xmr:matrix.org> Helooo there!... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/d225af8cf954480840bf89371df1f22b577c0d50)
13:57:06 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > <@mj-xmr:matrix.org> Helooo there!... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/b4d06aa37a4ca366e12c6be8257a4e24d4cf7517)
13:58:05 <ooo123ooo12345[m> "https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/299", "... working for Monero since 2 years on the purely technical level." facepalm
14:09:23 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > <@mj-xmr:matrix.org> Helooo there!... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/964e48fa25739edebe0cd60d2d564397bac226ff)
14:14:54 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > <@mj-xmr:matrix.org> Helooo there!... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/0f51144c283f95a959c2b78966b3da48f1f64ff0)
14:18:13 <ooo123ooo12345[m> <luigi1112> "oh dear" <- Can you create separate repo "money_charity" where you will merge PRs, approves CCS for that repo, engage with reviewers in that repo ? It will at least reduce harm from incompetent people, that are abusing this environment for their miserable needs.
14:20:12 <ooo123ooo12345[m> s/money_charity/money\_charity/, s/miserable/personal/, s/needs/profit/
14:21:09 <luigi1112> no
14:21:13 <ooo123ooo12345[m> <mj-xmr[m]> "So I don't want to suggest any..." <- I can't imagine how someone competent may work with your productively. Can call all these people ?
14:21:32 <ooo123ooo12345[m> s/your/you/
14:24:08 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > <@mj-xmr:matrix.org> Helooo there!... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/afc509dd1fe1b81ec805c3274e13c55b0c891e2f)
14:35:07 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > <@mj-xmr:matrix.org> I meant "a few who are audible". Somehow my proposals get financed by silent anons pretty quickly. I feel like I have a duty for you here and for those who just finance me. If anybody wants to convince them that they should stop doing this, go ahead. But I don't feel like I... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/9552ca18b189ff750d07ddd19ebd833d2e4d4b10)
14:38:06 <ofrnxmr[m]> ooo123oo are yo12345: are you og author of 7760/7999 + multisig fixes and more?
14:38:06 <ofrnxmr[m]> Is the issue here lack of payment for your work?
14:38:25 <ofrnxmr[m]> Or is it about an audit?
14:38:25 <ofrnxmr[m]> I got lost somewhere 
14:42:16 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > <@mj-xmr:matrix.org> I meant "a few who are audible". Somehow my proposals get financed by silent anons pretty quickly. I feel like I have a duty for you here and for those who just finance me. If anybody wants to convince them that they should stop doing this, go ahead. But I don't feel like I... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/75acd1d77eaeee70d7fb1ce73e8de78ed6b9d60c)
14:49:57 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > <@mj-xmr:matrix.org> Helooo there!... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/0762892bcabae252128ecd6ebd33784551901106)
14:51:23 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > <@mj-xmr:matrix.org> Helooo there!... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/b31a07e8b646ca1a615c82a3f54894ec04e30b69)
14:53:29 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > <@mj-xmr:matrix.org> I meant "a few who are audible". Somehow my proposals get financed by silent anons pretty quickly. I feel like I have a duty for you here and for those who just finance me. If anybody wants to convince them that they should stop doing this, go ahead. But I don't feel like I... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/fe51c4ae305f9d8453cca3d8690e6a52e696e136)
14:54:42 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > <@mj-xmr:matrix.org> I meant "a few who are audible". Somehow my proposals get financed by silent anons pretty quickly. I feel like I have a duty for you here and for those who just finance me. If anybody wants to convince them that they should stop doing this, go ahead. But I don't feel like I... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/f13eed0197eab8927ce57f75598c241c62c249d7)
14:55:36 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > <@mj-xmr:matrix.org> Here are the mentioned stats, that you love so much:
14:55:36 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > http://cryptog.hopto.org/monero/health/
14:55:36 <ooo123ooo12345[m> This blackbox numbers calculated by incompetent developer have no value.
14:59:39 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > <@mj-xmr:matrix.org> I meant "a few who are audible". Somehow my proposals get financed by silent anons pretty quickly. I feel like I have a duty for you here and for those who just finance me. If anybody wants to convince them that they should stop doing this, go ahead. But I don't feel like I... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/0e8d9adb9d8315fd4f71c619ffb7de724ea96997)
14:59:52 <ooo123ooo12345[m>  * Corrupted politician says to someone to get a job; facepalm;
15:09:22 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > <@mj-xmr:matrix.org> Also, by exposing my alias, you really don't scare me, dude. In fact I was considering doing a presentation some day in a future Monero Conference.
15:09:22 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > 
15:09:22 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > What you would do however by exposing other peoples' aliases, who live in restrictive regimes, is organizing them quite a lot of torture. All that they could take actually... and this is a top privacy coin's chat. Have you confused the coins maybe?
15:09:22 <ooo123ooo12345[m> scammer at monero conference; facepalm
15:12:01 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > <@mj-xmr:matrix.org> Also, by exposing my alias, you really don't scare me, dude. In fact I was considering doing a presentation some day in a future Monero Conference.
15:12:01 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > 
15:12:01 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > What you would do however by exposing other peoples' aliases, who live in restrictive regimes, is organizing them quite a lot of torture. All that they could take actually... and this is a top privacy coin's chat. Have you confused the coins maybe?
15:12:01 <ooo123ooo12345[m> "https://libera.monerologs.net/monero-research-lab/20220519#c97621" so much don't scare that you've starting to push commits into github(https://github.com/mj-xmr) exactly after this moment
15:12:11 <ooo123ooo12345[m> facepalm
15:12:17 <ooo123ooo12345[m>  * "https://libera.monerologs.net/monero-research-lab/20220519#c97621" so much don't scare that you've started to push commits into github(https://github.com/mj-xmr) exactly after this moment
15:13:48 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > <@mj-xmr:matrix.org> Also, by exposing my alias, you really don't scare me, dude. In fact I was considering doing a presentation some day in a future Monero Conference.
15:13:49 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > 
15:13:49 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > What you would do however by exposing other peoples' aliases, who live in restrictive regimes, is organizing them quite a lot of torture. All that they could take actually... and this is a top privacy coin's chat. Have you confused the coins maybe?
15:13:49 <ooo123ooo12345[m> Restrictive regime ? Let's check
15:20:12 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > <@mj-xmr:matrix.org> Also, by exposing my alias, you really don't scare me, dude. In fact I was considering doing a presentation some day in a future Monero Conference.
15:20:12 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > 
15:20:12 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > What you would do however by exposing other peoples' aliases, who live in restrictive regimes, is organizing them quite a lot of torture. All that they could take actually... and this is a top privacy coin's chat. Have you confused the coins maybe?
15:20:12 <ooo123ooo12345[m> "https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/138#note_10203", "Once we're done, I'd express my request for an hourly pay of about 35-40$ per hour (I have western costs unfortunately)." western cost 2 years ago
15:21:14 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > <@mj-xmr:matrix.org> Also, by exposing my alias, you really don't scare me, dude. In fact I was considering doing a presentation some day in a future Monero Conference.
15:21:14 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > 
15:21:14 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > What you would do however by exposing other peoples' aliases, who live in restrictive regimes, is organizing them quite a lot of torture. All that they could take actually... and this is a top privacy coin's chat. Have you confused the coins maybe?
15:21:14 <ooo123ooo12345[m> "https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/266#why", "Also, since I live in Western Europe, I pay my bills in EUR, which is seemingly going down against USD in a long term trend." western europe now
15:22:24 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > <@mj-xmr:matrix.org> Also, by exposing my alias, you really don't scare me, dude. In fact I was considering doing a presentation some day in a future Monero Conference.
15:22:24 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > 
15:22:24 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > What you would do however by exposing other peoples' aliases, who live in restrictive regimes, is organizing them quite a lot of torture. All that they could take actually... and this is a top privacy coin's chat. Have you confused the coins maybe?
15:22:24 <ooo123ooo12345[m> It's obvious lie. Why are you lying that you live in restrictive regime during talk about your incompetence ?
15:26:21 <ooo123ooo12345[m> money driven - check; incompetent - check; lying - check; hiding behind group of oppressed people - check; dodging any verification / criticial questions related to work - check;
15:32:12 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > <@mj-xmr:matrix.org> Also, by exposing my alias, you really don't scare me, dude. In fact I was considering doing a presentation some day in a future Monero Conference.
15:32:12 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > 
15:32:12 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > What you would do however by exposing other peoples' aliases, who live in restrictive regimes, is organizing them quite a lot of torture. All that they could take actually... and this is a top privacy coin's chat. Have you confused the coins maybe?
15:32:12 <ooo123ooo12345[m> Can you call at least 1 restrictive regime in Western Europe ?
15:33:41 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > <@mj-xmr:matrix.org> Also, by exposing my alias, you really don't scare me, dude. In fact I was considering doing a presentation some day in a future Monero Conference.
15:33:41 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > 
15:33:41 <ooo123ooo12345[m> > What you would do however by exposing other peoples' aliases, who live in restrictive regimes, is organizing them quite a lot of torture. All that they could take actually... and this is a top privacy coin's chat. Have you confused the coins maybe?
15:33:41 <ooo123ooo12345[m> And I'm even trying yet to use info from your portfolio site which exactly says where you are from.
15:39:48 <ooo123ooo12345[m> <ErCiccione> "It's very important that this..." <- provocation is your frontend development with no competition, pennies for cryptography fixes, force pushing merge of vulnerable code, support of incompetent people;
15:42:40 <ErCiccione> ooo123ooo12345: Please stay on topic and use this room for only research topics. Use #monero-research-lounge:monero.social for loose discussions not strictly related with research
15:42:53 <ooo123ooo12345[m> <ErCiccione> "It's very important that this..." <- No. Due to flood of these scammers even this place isn't suitable for research discussion.
15:45:11 <ooo123ooo12345[m> <ErCiccione> "It's very important that this..." <- It's very important to distinguish between bullshit and actual research. Actual research can be verified. Without ability to distinguish there is no motivation to pursue to hard problems.
15:48:23 <ErCiccione> <ooo123ooo12345[m> "provocation is your frontend..." <- You have to be able to relate with other people without resorting to personal attacks. ^ this is an unmotivated personal attack that had no reason to exist along with many more not directed to me. This is not how things work, be respectful, stay on topic and quit personal attacks.
15:48:50 <ErCiccione> again, if it's not directly related to research: #monero-research-lounge:monero.social 
15:50:50 <ooo123ooo12345[m> <ErCiccione> "It's very important that this..." <- incompetent people can't manage something they don't understand; how are you going to distinguish "high quality research" from anything else without questioning / verifying / trying to crack it ?
15:52:19 <ErCiccione> you can do those things and be respectful and constructive at the same, like it has been for years in this room.
15:53:22 <ooo123ooo12345[m> <ErCiccione> "It's very important that this..." <- scammers are suitable for this statement; is it good or bad for the goal of this project ?
15:55:42 <ooo123ooo12345[m> <ErCiccione> "It's very important that this..." <- corrupted money driven politicians shut up everyone in order to hide problems since they are not interested to fixing it, they are just here for money
15:55:56 <ooo123ooo12345[m> s/to/in/
16:02:39 <ooo123ooo12345[m> <ErCiccione> "It's very important that this..." <- That scammer with another crashed stable coin is still trying to keep his face, but It didn't help users to avoid any loss. Btw, is it you who banned me here ?
16:03:26 <selsta> don't think he has access to banhammer, he is just IRC mod here
16:08:04 <UkoeHB> I only see half the convo, but it looks really off-topic to me. Please take it elsewhere, or banhammer get to work!
16:15:44 <ooo123ooo12345[m> <ErCiccione> "It's very important that this..." <- This perfect description of environment that allows abuse of those do something by those who do nothing and just parroting msgs/ideas of others.
16:22:50 <merope> Banned - at least on the matrix side. Someone on the IRC side should ban his matrix alias at least (both the old one ooo123ooo1234[m] and the new one ooo123ooo12345[m] )
16:26:13 <ooo123ooo12345[m> test
16:29:42 <ooo123ooo12345[m> endor00[m]: incompetent developer with active CCS, obvious conflict of interests
16:30:41 <ooo123ooo12345[m> endor00[m]: can you ban all vulnerabilities and your own incompetence, would be much more helpful ?
16:37:38 <selsta> will remove in an  hour or so again
16:44:24 <ErCiccione> selsta
19:18:25 <ooo123ooo1234567> .
19:19:06 <ooo123ooo1234567>  * test