00:13:56 <garth> Woooooo
02:18:19 <ooo123ooo1234567> <plowsof[m]> "can one of the people qualified..." <- manual censorship for those who are setting wrong emojis, endor00 is it you ?
02:20:31 <w[m]> ooo123ooo1234567: I think its erciccione.. hes admin here. I dont think endor is a mod in mrl
02:21:06 <w[m]> <binaryFate> "ErCiccione: ok you're OP now for..." <- ^
06:21:50 <ErCiccione> w: You don't lose any occasion to throw shit at me, don't you?
06:27:32 <w[m]> <ErCiccione> "w: You don't lose any occasion..." <- -lab
15:28:01 <kayabanerve[m]> I'm pretty interested in PLSAG. It sounds like we may have one more RCT hard fork. PLSAG + TX chaining (or deterministic binning, as it's either or) + I may write up a spec for a burning bug immune RCT address format...
15:28:51 <dEBRUYNE> kayabanerve[m]: What is PLSAG?
15:28:51 <kayabanerve[m]> The last may get left to Seraphis, yet PLSAG is the perfect opportunity for a transcript format allowing TX chaining. If we don't do deterministic binning, there's no reason not to enable that now and start getting protocols built AFAIK.
15:29:19 <kayabanerve[m]> dEBRUYNE: A more efficient LSAG which does a single signature for all inputs 
15:29:39 <kayabanerve[m]> Yet unlike the MLSAG which had that... It doesn't require they share an index from my understand
15:30:06 <kayabanerve[m]> Because MLSAG nuked privacy if you did .-.
15:30:32 <kayabanerve[m]> There was just a lightning talk on it at MoneroKon. I'm not here to say it's suitably reviewed. I'm here to say I'm interested 👀
15:31:55 <harutoooo[m]> kayabanerve[m]: Thank you for your commment, I am the presentator of PLSAG
15:32:20 <kayabanerve[m]> And I do want to start discussing the next RCT HF q bit more tbh. I don't want to stagnate for two years on Seraphis. While I'd rather move up seraphis, there's obviously difficulties doing so with any timing question.
15:32:45 <kayabanerve[m]> harutoooo[m]: Really interesting work. I'll probably try to read the paper over the next week or so. Maybe get it going in rust...
15:33:16 <UkoeHB> AFAIK it uses common indices
15:33:26 <UkoeHB> Unless I misread the paper
15:33:55 <kayabanerve[m]> UkoeHB: I thought that was the explicit distinction from MLSAG, as I peered on a conversation about it here before
15:34:09 <harutoooo[m]> actually , I'm still writing the paper, just finish draft roughly
15:34:24 <UkoeHB> kayabanerve[m]: iirc it is a more efficient version of MLSAG
15:35:00 <harutoooo[m]> and PLSAG is middle way between MLSAG and CLSAG.
15:36:09 <kayabanerve[m]> Just pulled up the April 14 discussion. Yep, looks like I misread it.
15:36:23 <UkoeHB> Btw anyone know if monerokon will release videos of the talks?
15:36:38 <kayabanerve[m]> So far more performant, yet with the privacy hit :/
15:36:58 <kayabanerve[m]> UkoeHB: I'd assume after? Ask #monero-events:monero.social 
15:37:45 <john_r365[m]> According to the Twitter, yes, videos will be made available after
15:37:46 <john_r365[m]> https://mobile.twitter.com/MoneroKon/status/1538094906102644736
15:38:16 <kayabanerve[m]> But yeah. I think that has a privacy hit far too significant to be considerable. Guess I bit the hype of a quality presentation :p
15:44:48 <UkoeHB> john_r365[m]: thanks
15:48:23 <kayabanerve[m]> I still plan to review the paper and potentially write an impl. Excited to see how it finalizes harutoooo :)
15:53:32 <harutoooo[m]> Thank you 👍️ kayabanerve