10:25:08 <gingeropolous> if its optional and has the potential to create puddles, we could also see how far we can push the ringsize to overcompensate. 
10:26:09 <gingeropolous> from what I gather, we're expecting a ringsize of 128.... peraps when seraphis rolls out with a ADI API.... machines can handle ringsize 1024 ?
10:41:07 <hyc> remember that verification time increase is linear. 1024 vs 16 means txn verification will be 64x more CPU intensive.
10:41:17 <hyc> will CPUs be 64x faster by then? doubtful.
10:45:46 <gingeropolous> im talkin seraphis, not the current thing
10:47:21 <gingeropolous> but i guess your statement still holds. basically i thought seraphis would roll out with ringsize 128. i think 64 or 128 has been in discussion. so if we need to keep tx_extra because ... reasons, then perhaps we can just bump ringsize a bit 
10:47:46 <ofrnxmr[m]> reasons :)
10:53:30 <gingeropolous> ADF = Arbitrary Data Field. perhaps a new name for tx_extra will help distinguish that we're talking about when seraphis happens, and not the extant tx_extra
10:54:11 <ofrnxmr[m]> tx_shitcoinflag
10:54:22 <ofrnxmr[m]> tx_whatisthst
10:55:50 <gingeropolous> hey hey, we're in the lab. 
10:56:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> ADF and ADI are serious suggestions? or is it the profanity thats an issue?
10:57:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> i thought you were /s
13:28:54 <heinrich[m]> is there any eta for seraphis yet?
13:51:01 <kico> heinrich[m], I'm afraid not yet
13:51:07 <kico> afaik
20:35:49 <JulianKranz[m]>  Hey hey :)
20:49:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> good morning. anything in particular?
20:49:41 <JulianKranz[m]> Not really, was just reading about the tx_extra debate and then landed here
20:50:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> nohello.net is good etiquette. pinging people at work for no reason is not 🙏
20:50:57 <JulianKranz[m]> Oh sorry, didn't know things are so strict here.
20:51:15 <ofrnxmr[m]> #monero:monero.social  and #monero-offtopic:monero.social  for les and even less strict
20:51:33 <JulianKranz[m]> Thanks! :)
20:51:50 <jeffro256[m]> Or #monero-research-lounge:monero.social