02:33:49 <m-relay> <k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> I replied to jeffro256's post https://gist.github.com/kayabaNerve/0e1f7719e5797c826b87249f21ab6f86?permalink_comment_id=5027713#gistcomment-5027713
02:41:02 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> Thanks for the feedback
11:22:31 <binaryFate> Hey all, as you know we usually cover ~1/3rd of "fundational" (whether dev or research) CCS proposals, from the General Fund.
11:24:00 <binaryFate> I'll be happy to do the same for the MRL slush funds being discussed. Any opinion on this?
11:26:25 <m-relay> <o​ne-horse-wagon:monero.social> It sounds much nicer if you use the phrase "discretionary funds" instead of "slush funds".  Slush sounds nefarious while discretionary does not.
11:26:56 <m-relay> <o​ne-horse-wagon:monero.social> And yes, it would be nice to have discretionary funds available.  I'm all in favor of it.
11:30:25 <binaryFate> sorry, not a native speaker, no intention to sound anything negative.
11:31:48 <binaryFate> so if we do as usual, a CCS proposal must be put forward and the GF is then funding some of it, but not replacing the proposal.
11:34:19 <m-relay> <o​ne-horse-wagon:monero.social> Glad to hear you will support the effort as you have other proposals in the past.  Great!
11:39:20 <plowsof> Great move from the General Fund
11:40:23 <plowsof> Would this change the structure of your fcmp ccs kayabanerve?
11:41:08 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> kayabanerve (because I'm not sure its pinging through IRC)
11:42:23 <plowsof> Would be good to "pre fund" things after aproval so it goes to funding at a reduced amount with the funds earmarked / staying in the GF wallet(s) instead of shuffling funds around needlessly, just a thought 
11:53:16 <binaryFate> plowsof: If we do that, it puts a continuous duty on me to pay the earmarked funds or not. Imagine something goes horribly wrong with the proposal and a large part of the community lobies for not paying. In such a case I would be left to decide without the backing of the CCS rules, processes and known practices.
11:54:13 <binaryFate> I prefer to leverage the CCS system whenever possible to facilicate decision making
21:46:38 <m-relay> <k​ayabanerve:monero.social> binaryFate: I am a native speaker and I called it a slush fund so don't worry :p Turns out "earmarked" is the better term here.
21:48:40 <m-relay> <k​ayabanerve:monero.social> plowsof: The point of the CCS was stability and reduced latency. Even if the GF starts funding 33% of proposals, that doesn't cover the 67% nor the latency.
21:49:43 <m-relay> <k​ayabanerve:monero.social> Re: decision making, if core wants to reject my proposal for circumventing the CCS flow (albeit via a CCS), I would be forced to concede there and remove that R proposal for solely the D proposal. I'd then have to make several shifts in discussions :/
21:55:01 <m-relay> <k​ayabanerve:monero.social> To be clear, I would accept the above and do my best to work around it. It's just more problematic IMO.
23:46:24 <m-relay> <p​y.verse:matrix.org> There was a lot of gas lighting for FCMP, seraphis is out of reach for the next few years
23:46:25 <m-relay> <p​y.verse:matrix.org> You need to show something if you want their support
23:46:26 <m-relay> <p​y.verse:matrix.org> Like the recent donations to GF
23:47:31 <m-relay> <p​y.verse:matrix.org> You're gonna lose all of that if you cancel it after all of that hype and donations