00:11:29 <br-m> <-----0:zano.org> am i off topic ?
12:04:39 <tevador> Added some arguments for each of the options: https://gist.github.com/tevador/639d083c994c1ef9401832c08e2b7832#appendix-d
19:02:55 <br-m> <rucknium> @-----0:zano.org: You seem to be mixing together several separate concepts. The spy node issue is network-level privacy. Ring signature decoys is privacy in the published blockchain data. > <@-----0:zano.org> I mean: decoys are added without some POW being needed. If it were the case then at least they would have contributed to the network. 
19:48:07 <br-m> <321bob321> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7LBKOn81rc > <@-----0:zano.org> Hello, Question about the spynode situation; is this notna result of not tying mixing to proof of work ? 
19:48:07 <br-m> <321bob321> Ruck and boog monerokon talk about spy nodes
19:49:56 <br-m> <syntheticbird> @321bob321: ruck and boog in maid outfit at next MK when ?
22:44:36 <br-m> <-----0:zano.org> @rucknium: true, none the less, the low/nil cost of participation is my main point
22:46:29 <br-m> <-----0:zano.org> if some proof of hashing expense were needed to be a node, it would reduce their imcentive, the volunteer effort of tracking them, and benefit the network. Much like how hash cash was oroginaly proposed to reduce email spam, and how both tor and Dredd forum benefited from integrating POW at the network level. Capish ?
22:52:37 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> Spy nodes don't necessarily need to submit transactions, they just need to run the node
22:52:52 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> However there is something being worked on which is similar to what you describe: https://github.com/monero-project/research-lab/issues/133
22:55:55 <br-m> <-----0:zano.org> @jpk68:matrix.org: neat !
23:02:52 <br-m> <boog900> FWIW PoWER wont help with spy nodes
23:03:30 <br-m> <boog900> as PoW will only be done on outgoing connections, the spy nodes need incoming to spy on txs
23:47:05 <br-m> <-----0:zano.org> @boog900: true true, that makes sense. well damn
23:47:38 <br-m> <-----0:zano.org> but some POW to participate at all would
23:49:08 <br-m> <boog900> @-----0:zano.org: You would need a protocol that makes it too expensive for the spies but still cheap for normal node runners.
23:49:16 <br-m> <boog900> I don't think a PoW would work here 
23:49:37 <br-m> <boog900> Although a sort of proof of storage might