08:25:02 <br-m> <spirobel:kernal.eu> @tevador  just saw your message now after reading on monero logs https://libera.monerologs.net/monero-research-lab/20260510#c673982  1. if we solve the "might have received an enote in block x" problem properly, the scan time increases are not a meaningful measure anymore.  in this context of hypothetical quantum attacks this  [... too long, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/1LO8nYQLOEhmOFlN ]
17:56:19 <tevador> neptunian: Feel free to submit a PQ DSA proposal. The PQ encryption inclusion in Jamtis is my own initiative. PQ DSA will need a completely new addressing protocol to come with it.
17:58:28 <tevador> spirobel: "it would just require the writing of the receiver known secret by themselves" - this is exactly what the Jamtis interactive protocol does and I don't consider it to be non-interactive because the sender and the receiver must be online at the same time and be able to communicate. Your requirement for the receiver to be online makes static donation addresses moot anyways.
18:00:08 <tevador> To clarify, the filter-assist online wallet component mentioned in 4.6.2 is optional, not at all required to use Jamtis. It's just an optimization.
19:35:02 <br-m> <neptunian:unredacted.org> tevador: Thanks. Would you like me to submit it in Github issues to open discussion with some options?
20:41:24 <tevador> neptunian: github issue here: https://github.com/monero-project/research-lab/issues
22:32:47 <br-m> <doug:authbot.org> Just a thought:
22:32:47 <br-m> <doug:authbot.org> A well-designed proof-of-payment via verifiable power consumption would be highly quantum-resistant because it leverages fundamental physical constraints that apply equally to classical and quantum machines. It turns the “waste” of energy into the core security primitive in a more direct way than today’s PoW.
22:47:00 <br-m> <jeffro256> How would this scheme differ from PoW?
22:48:05 <br-m> <jeffro256> BTW PoW is quantum resistant already so IDK how you're gonna improve that