02:38:08 <br-m> <metatron_:matrix.org> 👍️
15:00:40 <br-m> <rucknium> MRL meeting in this room in two hours.
17:00:40 <br-m> <rucknium> Meeting time! https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/1451
17:00:44 <br-m> <rucknium> 1. Greetings
17:00:58 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> hello
17:01:02 <br-m> <ravfx:xmr.mx> o/
17:01:04 <rbrunner> Hello
17:01:07 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> Hello
17:01:34 <br-m> <articmine> Hi
17:01:37 <br-m> <vtnerd> hi
17:01:39 <br-m> <boog900> hi
17:01:42 <br-m> <ack-j:matrix.org> Hi
17:01:52 <br-m> <jberman> waves
17:02:16 <br-m> <jeffro256> Howdy 
17:04:06 <br-m> <rucknium> 2. Updates. What is everyone working on?
17:05:34 <br-m> <jeffro256> me: carrot_core reviews, Carot spec changes, and hot-cold PR https://github.com/seraphis-migration/monero/pull/52. Did a lot of big changes to that PR 
17:05:59 <br-m> <jberman> some upstream PR review, and have started up again working on Serai
17:06:05 <br-m> <vtnerd> me: finally making a lws signed 1.0 release in the next couple of days (hopefully the last bug fix was just pushed); working on monerod serialization; reviews
17:06:59 <br-m> <jpk68:matrix.org> Me: worked on replacing GNU Readline, updating and reviewing PRs, doing some hardware wallet testing
17:07:04 <br-m> <rucknium> me: Wrote a draft of methodology for using monerism to estimate the effectiveness of spy node adversaries: https://gist.github.com/Rucknium/ba230a2bab8a446d0997b7b002bf3af6
17:08:37 <br-m> <rucknium> 3. FCMP++ to-do list status. Programming tasks (https://github.com/seraphis-migration/monero/issues/53). Reviews and audits (https://cryptpad.fr/sheet/#/2/sheet/view/yPVIUywwA9-deE9VF6GYm9bXbPdCerdST3UDEEfBxcM/embed/). FCMP++ Integration Audit Overview (https://github.com/seraphis-migration/monero/issues/294). Network upgrade  [... too long, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/-cPd5KYLLTJvdW5y ]
17:08:40 <br-m> <ack-j:matrix.org> MAGIC: set up an automated security review of monero PRs
17:08:40 <br-m> <ack-j:matrix.org> https://github.com/xmrack/monero-review/issues
17:09:28 <br-m> <gingeropolous> me: server maintenance. spinny 40TB lives on. optane drives FTW. contemplating another CCS. Fixing / improving monerosim.
17:09:49 <br-m> <vtnerd> @ack-j:matrix.orgthese are automated AI reviews? will need to bookmark this
17:10:43 <br-m> <jberman> @boog900:monero.social reviewed and approved the tx relay v2 major changes over here https://github.com/seraphis-migration/monero/pull/450 (I still need to respond to that last comment there, but minor point). So that one is cleared for beta stressnet v3
17:11:13 <br-m> <gingeropolous> me: contemplating if a ccs could cover a tesla powerwall (or equivalent) so we can stop having these damn outages ....
17:11:20 <br-m> <ack-j:matrix.org> @vtnerd:monero.social: yes. I have opus-5 scan a new pr from a queue every 30 minutes. Each time the pr’s hash changes it gets back inline for the queue
17:11:25 <br-m> <jberman> @jeffro256:monero.social made good progress on hot/cold wallets looks like, which we want in before stressnet v3 as well
17:11:58 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> @ack-j:matrix.org: Is it there any consideration of switching AI models?
17:11:58 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Claude models got a little bit “worse”
17:13:16 <br-m> <jberman> Re: Research Tasks. The current remaining major task is having circuit + gadgets impl re-audited, and the fcmp-plus-plus audited. We're currently fielding quotes and talking to candidates answering questions etc.
17:15:32 <br-m> <jeffro256> I don't have much to add except that review and upstreaming is ongoing 
17:17:40 <br-m> <rucknium> Anything more on this topic?
17:18:57 <br-m> <rucknium> 4. Relative locks with FCMP++ (https://github.com/monero-project/research-lab/issues/161).
17:19:15 <br-m> <rucknium> After the meeting, @loop.ster:matrix.org said:
17:19:32 <br-m> <rucknium> > Don't get me wrong, I am interested in pursuing this, it's about how much time I can spend on it. If it's completely pro bono -- my working assumption --, it's like 10% of my time, tops, and I'll be using AI to help accelerate things. So I can't commit to some deadline of "produce a spec by XX date or else timelocks don't get merged".
17:19:53 <br-m> <rucknium> > What's encouraging is that there wasn't anyone against merging the time locks from what I could tell, so that's a very positive indicator.[... more lines follow, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/ur6U6qQLdzdNQXVF ]
17:20:17 <br-m> <rucknium> And that mrelay link is a 404 for me now. Can anyone else see it?
17:20:49 <br-m> <slowbeardigger:matrix.org> 404 for me as well
17:21:34 <br-m> <rucknium> Ah, I can find the old Matrix chat room:
17:21:51 <br-m> <rucknium> > Basically what I can offer is that if there's a general understanding that I am working on a spec, as time permits, along with the idea that relative locks probably do get merged -- that could work. That way we're not stuck at point 0, and in a month or so, we can compare notes again and maybe we're at a point where things can solidify a bit.
17:24:06 <br-m> <jberman> One point I was kind of getting at: I think even work on this spec would potentially be a solid candidate for a CCS proposal. It would be helpful Research to help solidify adding features to Monero's consensus
17:25:08 <br-m> <loop.ster:matrix.org> oh I see. I read it as, write the spec and then maybe..
17:25:24 <br-m> <jberman> nay, sorry I was unclear
17:26:24 <br-m> <loop.ster:matrix.org> cool, well I suspect I'll have some cycles next week to work on grease. I didn't move anything fwd this week
17:26:25 <br-m> <jberman> my main point being I think that continuing on the path of exploring working with that feature would be appreciated
17:29:56 <br-m> <rucknium> Any more discussion of this topic?
17:30:28 <br-m> <loop.ster:matrix.org> nothing from me
17:30:38 <br-m> <jberman> same, thank you @loop.ster:matrix.org
17:31:05 <br-m> <rucknium> 5. FCMP beta stressnet (https://github.com/seraphis-migration/monero/releases/). Version 3 launch checklist (https://github.com/seraphis-migration/monero/pull/415).
17:31:49 <br-m> <jberman> It's just hot/cold wallet stuff now, we're working on it
17:33:01 <br-m> <jeffro256> Al the major changes from j-berman's review are done AFAICT, just renamings left 
17:35:01 <br-m> <rucknium> Thanks, @jberman:monero.social and @jeffro256:monero.social .
17:36:27 <br-m> <rucknium> Looks like this is going to be a short meeting.
17:36:45 <br-m> <rucknium> We can end the meeting here. Thanks everyone.
17:38:58 <br-m> <articmine> Thanks 
20:05:44 <rbrunner> exit