02:01:06 <m-relay> <c​haser:monero.social> if there's consensus, it should be soon time to formally assign the EP numbers to FCMP++ and Carrot. https://xcancel.com/e_goldstein_84/status/1917027088487395574
03:11:47 <m-relay> <a​ck-j:matrix.org> A Comparative Evaluation of Zero Knowledge Proof Techniques
03:11:48 <m-relay> <a​ck-j:matrix.org> https://www.scitepress.org/Papers/2025/132691/132691.pdf
03:11:50 <m-relay> <a​ck-j:matrix.org> “This study evaluated the performance of Bulletproof
03:11:52 <m-relay> <a​ck-j:matrix.org> and zk-STARK zero-knowledge proof systems in dis-
03:11:54 <m-relay> <a​ck-j:matrix.org> tributed, decentralized, and resource-constrained en-
03:11:56 <m-relay> <a​ck-j:matrix.org> vironments, focusing on proof generation time, veri-
03:11:58 <m-relay> <a​ck-j:matrix.org> fication time, and proof size. The results show that
03:12:00 <m-relay> <a​ck-j:matrix.org> Bulletproof consistently outperforms zk-STARK in
03:12:02 <m-relay> <a​ck-j:matrix.org> terms of efficiency, producing faster proofs, smaller
03:12:04 <m-relay> <a​ck-j:matrix.org> proof sizes, and shorter verification times”
03:12:06 <m-relay> <a​ck-j:matrix.org> Nothing unexpected but still a cool paper that provides a formal comparison
03:13:45 <m-relay> <a​ck-j:matrix.org> A Comparative Evaluation of Zero Knowledge Proof Techniques
03:13:46 <m-relay> <a​ck-j:matrix.org> https://www.scitepress.org/Papers/2025/132691/132691.pdf
03:13:48 <m-relay> <a​ck-j:matrix.org> “This study evaluated the performance of Bulletproof and zk-STARK zero-knowledge proof systems in distributed, decentralized, and resource-constrained environments, focusing on proof generation time, verification time, and proof size. The results show that
Bulletproof consistently outperforms zk-STARK in terms of efficiency, producing faster proofs, smaller
proof sizes, and <clipped message>
03:13:50 <m-relay> <a​ck-j:matrix.org> shorter verification times”
03:13:52 <m-relay> <a​ck-j:matrix.org> Nothing unexpected but still a cool paper that provides a formal comparison
03:14:07 <m-relay> <a​ck-j:matrix.org> A Comparative Evaluation of Zero Knowledge Proof Techniques
https://www.scitepress.org/Papers/2025/132691/132691.pdf
03:14:08 <m-relay> <a​ck-j:matrix.org> 
“This study evaluated the performance of Bulletproof and zk-STARK zero-knowledge proof systems in distributed, decentralized, and resource-constrained environments, focusing on proof generation time, verification time, and proof size. The results show that
Bulletproof consistently outperforms zk-STARK in terms of efficiency, producing faster proofs, smaller
proof sizes, a<clipped message>
03:14:10 <m-relay> <a​ck-j:matrix.org> nd shorter verification times”
03:14:12 <m-relay> <a​ck-j:matrix.org> 
Nothing unexpected but still a cool paper that provides a formal comparison
18:39:59 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> chaser: Of all the interesting developments of the GenAI era, what has most shocked me is the willingness of people to uncritically believe complete fabrications produced by LLMs.
18:40:48 <m-relay> <r​ucknium:monero.social> Reminds me of Citogenesis, but much worse: https://xkcd.com/978