19:08:36 <br-m> <17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> why do people use 8.8.8.8 dns
19:08:39 <br-m> <17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> use 1.1.1.1 its the fastest ever
19:08:40 <br-m> <17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> ._.
19:14:58 <DataHoarder> until it breaks :D
19:15:14 <DataHoarder> > fastest
19:15:26 <DataHoarder> 8.8.8.8 answer latency 0.8ms
19:15:36 <DataHoarder> 1.1.1.1 answer latency 2ms
19:16:05 <DataHoarder> I used to have 0.5ms latency to 8.8.8.8 (and other google services)
19:16:40 <connorbey13> local recursive resolver for the win. I am using knot resolver which is the same one Cloudflare is using for 1.1.1.1
19:16:49 <DataHoarder> yeah, recursive resolver wins ofc
19:17:18 <DataHoarder> it's a bit slow but still 0.21 ms here :)
19:17:35 <connorbey13> That'll do :D
19:20:47 <baz> I'm going to hang out over in this corner, with a tad bit higher latency, for the peace of mind that my queries aren't at risk of posining and snooping by Cloudflare or Google. 
19:22:56 <connorbey13> That's how I feel. Shouldn't the cached results from a local resolver be faster than any DNS provider? It's just the first root lookup that'll take longer.
19:23:07 <baz> I'm over here on Qubes, so I guess are tinfoilhats dont size up
19:24:55 <DataHoarder> baz: local resolver doesn't get the snooping, but hit origin DNS servers :D
19:25:03 <connorbey13> I'm into privacy but feel at a bit of loss with CPU blobs and possible backdoors in the Linux kernel. I do what I can.
19:25:09 <DataHoarder> which might still be CF or google servers, sure
19:25:12 <connorbey13> Right
19:25:43 <baz> DataHoarder: yeah, local unbound dnscrypt etc 
19:26:09 <DataHoarder> xmrpool.eu asked for a silly https://blocks.p2pool.observer/block/da8761591e6d481c050bca50ed5cdb38f00e148da2179f2f8286dd86cf110b60
19:26:50 <DataHoarder> they provided ways to verify the coinbase outputs, but asked to not disclose view keys (sure can generate InProof) but also not the public address (this is needed to verify the proof) :D
19:27:11 <DataHoarder> asked them to clarify but best I can do is show "hey I verified it but ... I can't give the proof"
19:27:21 <DataHoarder> good on them though
19:29:42 <DataHoarder> Also found https://github.com/monero-project/research-lab/issues/130 > I'm not fully mapping this out as this is a quirk and a rabbit hole, but there's no known real-world use.
19:30:26 <DataHoarder> The only real-world use I see is mining rental scams remaking one of these proofs to a random address, to appear it's theirs